00:47:40 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:47:40] S0: Is there's an interior tour here with whole Mars catalog. And I b says [00:47:47] S1: The doors go up, John. The doors go Did you know the doors go up? [00:47:50] S0: Yes. I saw that. This will completely replace Uber for me. Holy mackerel. I like this. There's a couple other data points about the Cybercab rollout. So famously, YouTuber and electronics reviewer, Marques Brownlee, attended the previous Cybercab event and came away impressed and optimistic about the future of self driving but skeptical of the timeline. And he said that if Elon could make good on his forecast, which was for sale by the end of twenty twenty six for under $30,000, no steering wheel, full self driving, you can just put it out in the world and it will go do tasks and earn you money. That was the pitch. And Marquez said, I think that's too aggressive. [00:48:40] S1: Does for sale mean they're being delivered? [00:48:43] S0: Yes. [00:48:43] S1: Okay. [00:48:44] S0: For sale [00:48:44] S1: Because they did throw up like
00:48:44 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:48:44] S1: Because they did throw up like [00:48:46] S0: Pre a order doesn't count. Okay. You gotta pay the 30,000. You gotta get the Cybercab by December 31. And so if you get took that personally. Elon took that personally. Yeah. He has a pre order where you can buy a whole stack of them for for a million dollars and run a fleet. But I think Marquez is looking good. The the stakes were high. Marquez Brownlee said that he would have to he would shave his head if this happened on Elon's original schedule. And of course, every time a every time there was a Cybercab that was spotted I actually saw one here in LA. Every time there was an update about the progress of the Cybercab program, people would respond with a AI image of bald Marquez, is very funny. But the [00:49:34] S1: Should we be making predictions with with head shaving as a as a con Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:49:40] S0: If Elon doesn't ship this by the end of the year, I'll shave Tyler's head. I'm willing to do that. If Elon doesn't [00:49:49] S1: Okay. Is that do we have a deal? Yeah. Wait. If he doesn't ship [00:49:54] S0: it? If he doesn't ship the Cybercab for under $30,000 by the end of the year [00:49:58] S1: Actual deliveries [00:49:59] S0: No steering [00:50:00] S1: wheel and or driving vehicles that can do economically viable I'm inverse Marquez Bradley. [00:50:05] S0: No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:50:06] S1: Yeah. Oh.
00:50:06 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:50:06] S1: Yeah. Oh. [00:50:08] S0: No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If he doesn't do it. Yeah. You're the opposite of of of Marquez. If he doesn't do it, you shave. If in the in the the world where he does do it, then you don't have to shave your head. No. I do like the head shaving as a as a bat. I don't know exactly [00:50:29] S1: When's the last time you had a buzz cut? [00:50:31] S0: High school. Football season. I would shave it before the season started. Easier to put on the helmet. And then I would grow it out all year and I had long flowing hair. [00:50:41] S1: I Electric. Will pay a lot of money for pictures of John
00:50:45 · John Coogan
[00:50:45] S0: find an old one. It was it was a good it was a it was a wild luck. It was a lot of fun. It was also just like easier. Lazy. Lazy bones. Not today. Not today in the life of a broadcaster. Quickly. Ready to fire up Astra? Do it on Codex. Codex is a powerful workspace for getting work done with AI agents, whether you're writing code, analyzing data, creating content, or automating business workflows. Codex helps you move projects forward from start to finish. I'm actually really bullish on the Cybercab. I've tested Model s recently and I ordered a Model y l. And the self driving capability is 100% ready to rock. Like, it it is, you know, Brandon and our team were saying that he's at 95% of the miles that he's driven in the car have been in full self driving mode. You had a little bit of tele op for that 5% that's not there. And with a cab, you don't have to negotiate driveways and drop off points and valets as much. Yeah. It's solved. Like, truly, the only time you're driving a Tesla, if you have the full self driving on the latest hardware, is you pulling into your garage or negotiating a parking lot, something like that. Interestingly, Tesla has a feature, smart summon. It can pull out of a of a parking space and come and pick you up. It's a little janky right now, not quite there. You have to sort of puppeteer it yourself. But they don't have a banish mode and there's huge demand for banish, which is the inverse of summon. And Brandon just coined this and I was like, that's actually great. I and he was like, yeah, that's probably what they'll call it. And I was like, yeah, guess, but I wouldn't have thought of that. I don't know.
00:52:28 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:52:28] S1: Seems like a very Elon Yeah. Word. [00:52:32] S0: So I love the idea of being able to take the full self driving vehicle, get out of it just on the curb, actually at your destination and say banish. Go pay for parking if you wanna pay for parking. Go find a spot on the road. Go drive around until you find something. I'm gonna be here for an hour. Deal with it. Deal with it, AI. You know? Like, that's what I that's what everyone wants. Yeah. For sure. For sure. Anyway. What did Elon actually say about Cybercab? He said 20¢ a mile to run 30 or 40 with taxes. And yes, you can buy one for under $30,000 Get ready to shave your head, MKBHD. Somebody is shaving their head. It's either Tyler or MKBHD. We'll see. I think the cost of autonomous transport will be so low that you can think of it like individualized mass transit. The average cost of a city bus per mile, not the ticket price, because that is subsidized, is about a dollar a mile. The operating cost of a Cybercab will be around 20¢ a mile, including taxes and everything else, probably 30 or 40¢ a mile. Yes, you'll be able to buy one. We expect a cost below 30,000. It is crazy that I'm in a world where I think they're going to ship Cybercab before Roadster. Cause they announced Roadster a decade ago. [00:53:48] S1: I know. But we were expecting something around the Roadster in August. [00:53:51] S0: Right. Yeah. Flying. He and and he told Rogan he was he was gonna show a demo that was gonna blow everyone's mind. [00:53:55] S1: Yeah. So I would expect that hopefully this month.
00:53:55 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:53:55] S1: Yeah. So I would expect that hopefully this month. [00:53:57] S0: So you think you think you'll be able to buy a Roadster and get it delivered before you'll be able to buy a Cybercab and get it delivered? [00:54:03] S1: I never said I thought you could ever get a Roadster delivered. [00:54:06] S0: You just think it's never gonna come? [00:54:08] S1: No. No. No. But but I would assume if they're gonna do a demo [00:54:11] S0: Yeah. [00:54:12] S1: Then we're still over a year out [00:54:14] S0: Yeah. From delivery Yeah. At least. I mean, just from a financial position, Cybercab makes so much more sense as a business than Roadster. Roadster, I mean, even at $250,000 for the crazy specs, it's still like there aren't that many buyers that want that. A lot of people that are spending $250,000, they want a manual, they want an experience, they want a weekender. They don't necessarily There's want so [00:54:34] S1: many buyers for the Roadster There will be. At least where we are. [00:54:37] S0: There will be. But we're talking about so many buyers, oh, 10,000 cars a year or something. It's not the way people get around Yeah. Every day like taxis. You know? Like, it's just completely different TAM, completely different situation in general. So I don't know. I I might go well, I I'm shaving this side of the head if it's Cybercab first, this side of the head if it's Roadster first, and I think I'll have a head of hair for over a year. [00:55:04] S1: Oh, I thought you were talking still about time.