00:39:46 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Bar Winkler
[00:39:46] S1: Sorry. I wanted to Am I right? I wanted to include Sorkin's line Please. Before we move on. Please. He Sorkin said, and this is 2014. He says, they appear to be living out a childhood fantasy using other people's money, some of whom may not even realize it. Wow. And it took over a decade for the chickens to come home to roost Wow. On that one. [00:40:09] S0: Very very interesting. [00:40:11] S1: Anyway. He also called it a lawsuit waiting to happen. Anyways, back to advertising. Whole path. Yeah. Day Job and Medici, which is the parent company of of David and and now Hall Pass. They've just been cooking together. They had the the same team behind the the fish campaign, which I still we're still it was so odd that it's stuck in your mind. Yeah. I've [00:40:36] S0: gone back and forth on did they ever actually sell boiled cod? [00:40:40] S1: Yeah. Did. They did. [00:40:41] S2: They did. [00:40:41] S1: They it. [00:40:42] S0: But they didn't but it's not like an actual SKU. [00:40:45] S1: It was a SKU for a period of time. [00:40:47] S0: Oh, for a period [00:40:47] S1: of time. [00:40:47] S0: But it was like a special launch, special drop. There there [00:40:50] S1: See if you can still [00:40:50] S0: get They're not in the business. Because there is a business there. Like, people people do buy boiled cod. I [00:40:57] S1: don't know. They still have canned cod for sale on the website. [00:41:01] S0: Maybe it'll be the biggest skew ever. [00:41:03] S1: Wild cod Atlantic cod.
00:41:03 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:41:03] S1: Wild cod Atlantic cod. [00:41:05] S0: Yeah. It happens. Okay. Let me tell you about console. Please. Console builds AI agents that automate 70% of ITHR and finance support giving employees instant resolution for access requests and password resets. Now The great Dyson. The great Dyson debate. TJ Parker kicked it off. He said apparently unpopular opinion. Dyson products are generally not very good. David Senra. Someone needs to check-in on him. But strongly agree, though my girls love their air wraps, says Bryce Roberts. A couple other people saying, yep, my wife got a vacuum. It was terrible. Felt like a total psyop. A lot of people are upset. The Matic founder's chiming in. I got got an alternative for you. [00:41:51] S1: Woah. He's saying that it's likely ruining your rug slash carpet. [00:41:55] S0: Oh, interesting. Dyson rug shed and Dyson suction is very adept at making it shed faster than necessary. Interesting. [00:42:04] S1: Okay. Okay. I'll start with what I I I think the Dyson business is incredible. The story is incredible. I think that the making things that look like halo weapons for [00:42:15] S0: Oh, yeah. Stuff around the home That [00:42:17] S1: is a is a very cool way to differentiate. Mhmm. And I appreciate the over engineering, like, everyday objects. I I'm I'm not saying I'm buying into it, but I'm but I appreciate that that someone's doing it. Somebody needs to make a $500 toothbrush. [00:42:32] S0: Okay.
00:42:32 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:42:32] S0: Okay. [00:42:34] S1: But that being said, I I saw this and I was like, you know what? That kind of I I that does resonate because every time I have a Dyson vacuum at home and I've had various Dyson products over the year, and the vacuum in particular, it just feels like a little bit like creek like it's like creaky. It feels a little bit it feels a little bit cheap. Yeah. And I always want to put it away because I don't like this like halo weapon, know, a home cleaning device doesn't exactly fit in to the overall design [00:43:06] S0: say you don't live at the city. Say your house doesn't look like it would be welcoming to the flood. Come on. You gotta you gotta design your whole house to fit the aesthetic. [00:43:15] S1: Yeah. You [00:43:16] S0: That's gotta have a banshee upfront. [00:43:17] S1: A banshee upfront Would be would fix me. [00:43:20] S0: Yeah. I think you forget how bad it was before Dyson. [00:43:25] S1: Yeah.
00:43:25 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:43:25] S1: Yeah. [00:43:26] S0: Was so bad. Vacuums were so rattly and clanky and like they used to have bags on the back that you would have to like take out and they have this felt inside and the stuff would be going everywhere. Like, this is such a step forward. Maybe you could say that, like, it's plasticky and and it doesn't feel, like, super rock solidly built now, but it moved the whole category so far forward and so far into the future. Just the fact that you don't have to plug it in. It has a battery. That was an innovation. Like, there most most most vacuums, you would have to take it out and then you would unwind this long cable. And they I think they still make some of these, but you would have to find the low the the nearest plug, plug the vacuum in, and then you could only vacuum as far as the cable would go. And then you'd want to move to another room. So one of my early like chores I think I I don't know why I have so many remnants of this but I guess I I vacuumed. I have I have [00:44:29] S1: formative memories of like Vacuuming. Trying to get to a spot. [00:44:32] S0: And you're like oh, and you're trying to extend it and then you have to [00:44:35] S1: like And as a kid, you're trying [00:44:36] S0: to be as efficient as possible. Yeah. Course, don't want move the cord in two seconds. [00:44:40] S1: There's four plugs in the house that need to hit Yep. To vacuum the And whole
00:44:40 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:44:40] S1: There's four plugs in the house that need to hit Yep. To vacuum the And whole [00:44:44] S0: so you got to you got to optimally It's a traveling sales problem all of a sudden. It's NPR. Like, you gotta plug in over here, reach under there, get under the couch, go over there, then you gotta move the cord over the couch so you can get to the other side. Then you gotta move the cable all the way to the other side of the room so you can get the other side of the room. Huge problem. Completely solved. One shotted by James Dyson. One of the greatest to ever do it. And put some respect on his name. Apologize. [00:45:10] S1: I I I still think they should make a line that that doesn't feel as cheap. [00:45:15] S0: Yeah. I don't know. There would [00:45:17] S1: there would almost certainly be zero demand for it. Yeah. But I think that if you're willing to make the $499 toothbrush, you should be willing to make the $5,000. [00:45:26] S0: Maybe. Hold I feel like you'd lose a lot in the engineering. Like, you would wind up doing I mean, because as soon as you go metal, you're going to get a lot heavier. It's going to be a lot more annoying. I do think that part of the problem that you're feeling is that the products have gotten more complex. There's one that has a laser beam on it that shows you the dirt that's somewhat useful, but it's not that relevant. And so there's they've added a lot of weight to them and I think that puts a little more strain on the device and the engineering and so but I don't know. Would carbon fiber satisfy you? [00:46:03] S1: Yes.
00:46:03 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:46:03] S1: Yes. [00:46:04] S0: Okay. The carbon fiber Dyson vacuum. Anyway, there's an article in the journal [00:46:10] S1: with somewhat niche, but one of the I would call it the post of the day. David Senra interviewing Herbert Hoover. Hoover, I effing love it. You have to effing meet James Dyson. [00:46:24] S0: Yeah. I I wonder what percentage of the David Senra of David Senra episodes include a mention of James Dyson. It it's gotta be it's gotta be above 50 for sure. Yeah. We talked about this a little bit earlier, but James Dyson sold us a $400 hair dryer. Now he's trying a $500 toothbrush. The inventor known for household appliances is turning to oral care. Quote, we don't really structure things on a business plan. I mean, you brush your teeth so much over the course of years. If this lasts a couple years, I wouldn't be surprised if the Dyson camera jet toothbrush sells pretty well. Also, just physical objects, things like this, they kinda fit with Christmas. I feel like there's less and less things to to give to people. It feels it feels nice and and luxurious and special, and it's a new gadget. And even if you churn from some of the features, it remains a daily driver. It's not gonna collect dust in the way that some Internet connected gadgets do, even if you don't get a lot of value out out of the the imaging features. But I don't know. We'll see where it goes. We'll have to check-in. What is going on with the Cybercab? Cybercab Let's [00:47:38] S1: check out the interior. [00:47:40] S0: Is there's an interior tour here with whole Mars catalog. And I b says