00:43:25 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:43:25] S1: Yeah. [00:43:26] S0: Was so bad. Vacuums were so rattly and clanky and like they used to have bags on the back that you would have to like take out and they have this felt inside and the stuff would be going everywhere. Like, this is such a step forward. Maybe you could say that, like, it's plasticky and and it doesn't feel, like, super rock solidly built now, but it moved the whole category so far forward and so far into the future. Just the fact that you don't have to plug it in. It has a battery. That was an innovation. Like, there most most most vacuums, you would have to take it out and then you would unwind this long cable. And they I think they still make some of these, but you would have to find the low the the nearest plug, plug the vacuum in, and then you could only vacuum as far as the cable would go. And then you'd want to move to another room. So one of my early like chores I think I I don't know why I have so many remnants of this but I guess I I vacuumed. I have I have [00:44:29] S1: formative memories of like Vacuuming. Trying to get to a spot. [00:44:32] S0: And you're like oh, and you're trying to extend it and then you have to [00:44:35] S1: like And as a kid, you're trying [00:44:36] S0: to be as efficient as possible. Yeah. Course, don't want move the cord in two seconds. [00:44:40] S1: There's four plugs in the house that need to hit Yep. To vacuum the And whole
00:44:40 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:44:40] S1: There's four plugs in the house that need to hit Yep. To vacuum the And whole [00:44:44] S0: so you got to you got to optimally It's a traveling sales problem all of a sudden. It's NPR. Like, you gotta plug in over here, reach under there, get under the couch, go over there, then you gotta move the cord over the couch so you can get to the other side. Then you gotta move the cable all the way to the other side of the room so you can get the other side of the room. Huge problem. Completely solved. One shotted by James Dyson. One of the greatest to ever do it. And put some respect on his name. Apologize. [00:45:10] S1: I I I still think they should make a line that that doesn't feel as cheap. [00:45:15] S0: Yeah. I don't know. There would [00:45:17] S1: there would almost certainly be zero demand for it. Yeah. But I think that if you're willing to make the $499 toothbrush, you should be willing to make the $5,000. [00:45:26] S0: Maybe. Hold I feel like you'd lose a lot in the engineering. Like, you would wind up doing I mean, because as soon as you go metal, you're going to get a lot heavier. It's going to be a lot more annoying. I do think that part of the problem that you're feeling is that the products have gotten more complex. There's one that has a laser beam on it that shows you the dirt that's somewhat useful, but it's not that relevant. And so there's they've added a lot of weight to them and I think that puts a little more strain on the device and the engineering and so but I don't know. Would carbon fiber satisfy you? [00:46:03] S1: Yes.
00:46:03 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:46:03] S1: Yes. [00:46:04] S0: Okay. The carbon fiber Dyson vacuum. Anyway, there's an article in the journal [00:46:10] S1: with somewhat niche, but one of the I would call it the post of the day. David Senra interviewing Herbert Hoover. Hoover, I effing love it. You have to effing meet James Dyson. [00:46:24] S0: Yeah. I I wonder what percentage of the David Senra of David Senra episodes include a mention of James Dyson. It it's gotta be it's gotta be above 50 for sure. Yeah. We talked about this a little bit earlier, but James Dyson sold us a $400 hair dryer. Now he's trying a $500 toothbrush. The inventor known for household appliances is turning to oral care. Quote, we don't really structure things on a business plan. I mean, you brush your teeth so much over the course of years. If this lasts a couple years, I wouldn't be surprised if the Dyson camera jet toothbrush sells pretty well. Also, just physical objects, things like this, they kinda fit with Christmas. I feel like there's less and less things to to give to people. It feels it feels nice and and luxurious and special, and it's a new gadget. And even if you churn from some of the features, it remains a daily driver. It's not gonna collect dust in the way that some Internet connected gadgets do, even if you don't get a lot of value out out of the the imaging features. But I don't know. We'll see where it goes. We'll have to check-in. What is going on with the Cybercab? Cybercab Let's [00:47:38] S1: check out the interior. [00:47:40] S0: Is there's an interior tour here with whole Mars catalog. And I b says
00:47:40 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:47:40] S0: Is there's an interior tour here with whole Mars catalog. And I b says [00:47:47] S1: The doors go up, John. The doors go Did you know the doors go up? [00:47:50] S0: Yes. I saw that. This will completely replace Uber for me. Holy mackerel. I like this. There's a couple other data points about the Cybercab rollout. So famously, YouTuber and electronics reviewer, Marques Brownlee, attended the previous Cybercab event and came away impressed and optimistic about the future of self driving but skeptical of the timeline. And he said that if Elon could make good on his forecast, which was for sale by the end of twenty twenty six for under $30,000, no steering wheel, full self driving, you can just put it out in the world and it will go do tasks and earn you money. That was the pitch. And Marquez said, I think that's too aggressive. [00:48:40] S1: Does for sale mean they're being delivered? [00:48:43] S0: Yes. [00:48:43] S1: Okay. [00:48:44] S0: For sale [00:48:44] S1: Because they did throw up like
00:48:44 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:48:44] S1: Because they did throw up like [00:48:46] S0: Pre a order doesn't count. Okay. You gotta pay the 30,000. You gotta get the Cybercab by December 31. And so if you get took that personally. Elon took that personally. Yeah. He has a pre order where you can buy a whole stack of them for for a million dollars and run a fleet. But I think Marquez is looking good. The the stakes were high. Marquez Brownlee said that he would have to he would shave his head if this happened on Elon's original schedule. And of course, every time a every time there was a Cybercab that was spotted I actually saw one here in LA. Every time there was an update about the progress of the Cybercab program, people would respond with a AI image of bald Marquez, is very funny. But the [00:49:34] S1: Should we be making predictions with with head shaving as a as a con Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:49:40] S0: If Elon doesn't ship this by the end of the year, I'll shave Tyler's head. I'm willing to do that. If Elon doesn't [00:49:49] S1: Okay. Is that do we have a deal? Yeah. Wait. If he doesn't ship [00:49:54] S0: it? If he doesn't ship the Cybercab for under $30,000 by the end of the year [00:49:58] S1: Actual deliveries [00:49:59] S0: No steering [00:50:00] S1: wheel and or driving vehicles that can do economically viable I'm inverse Marquez Bradley. [00:50:05] S0: No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:50:06] S1: Yeah. Oh.
00:50:06 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:50:06] S1: Yeah. Oh. [00:50:08] S0: No. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If he doesn't do it. Yeah. You're the opposite of of of Marquez. If he doesn't do it, you shave. If in the in the the world where he does do it, then you don't have to shave your head. No. I do like the head shaving as a as a bat. I don't know exactly [00:50:29] S1: When's the last time you had a buzz cut? [00:50:31] S0: High school. Football season. I would shave it before the season started. Easier to put on the helmet. And then I would grow it out all year and I had long flowing hair. [00:50:41] S1: I Electric. Will pay a lot of money for pictures of John