00:37:18 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:37:18] S0: Yeah. Anyways If Burning Man wants to survive, I think that they should probably host it in New York, switch it up, invite only, maybe get Sorkin on stage interviewing CEO. Something a lot more like deal book Yeah. Would probably work for for, like, the future there. That would be something that I would wanna Yeah. [00:37:37] S1: And it would make the BlackRock connection make more sense. [00:37:40] S0: Exactly. Yeah. It was always a little you had to squint to understand why is BlackRock involved with Burning Man. But if they if they held it in Manhattan with just financial leaders, geopolitical leaders and it was just more like one on one conversations [00:37:56] S1: About global markets. [00:37:57] S0: With a with a legendary investigative journalist and a and a news anchor who everyone really respects. And it was invite only and then the videos could go out on the Internet. Like that might be a little bit more up my alley. Yeah. Yeah. If they want to appeal to me. I don't know. Don't know if they're going after me. [00:38:12] S1: I don't [00:38:12] S0: know if I'm in the dam. I don't know. [00:38:15] S1: Speaking of Sorkin Yeah. Sorkin Sorkin has an amazing quote from when Mark Walter bought the Dodgers. [00:38:24] S0: He said, mark my words. This man will be investigated by public No. [00:38:27] S1: He was just like he was basically saying like, to paraphrase, like, this is not all certainly not all of his money. Oh, interesting. There's some other bunch of people funding this that aren't just Yeah.
00:38:27 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:38:27] S1: He was just like he was basically saying like, to paraphrase, like, this is not all certainly not all of his money. Oh, interesting. There's some other bunch of people funding this that aren't just Yeah. [00:38:38] S0: And and I forget that how like it's so normal in venture. Like if if you're like, oh, yeah. I raised money from, you know, Sean McGuire at Sequoia. You're like, yeah. Well, that's Sequoia's money and that's not all his money. He probably has a stake in it that he invested but then also it's Sequoia's money and Sequoia's money is like the Harvard and Yale endowment money and and CalPERS and all these pension funds and like, you understand that there's this sequence of ownership that happens with a normal venture investment or even an acquisition. But in sports, like the final beneficial owner is really important. And I don't know if that's purely aesthetic because when you say this person owns this team, you want to know that they actually own it and they're not just the front man for like a private equity firm. But it's interesting that that Sorkin called that out. He is the best for a reason. Anyway, what's Ryan Harmon up to? He's cutting the number of calories in a new product called Hall Pass. Yep. One third the calories, one third the ad space, Hall Pass. This is from Peter Rahal. Correct? Yep. Very cool. So you know him from RxBar. You know him from David, the protein bar.
00:38:38 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:38:38] S0: And and I forget that how like it's so normal in venture. Like if if you're like, oh, yeah. I raised money from, you know, Sean McGuire at Sequoia. You're like, yeah. Well, that's Sequoia's money and that's not all his money. He probably has a stake in it that he invested but then also it's Sequoia's money and Sequoia's money is like the Harvard and Yale endowment money and and CalPERS and all these pension funds and like, you understand that there's this sequence of ownership that happens with a normal venture investment or even an acquisition. But in sports, like the final beneficial owner is really important. And I don't know if that's purely aesthetic because when you say this person owns this team, you want to know that they actually own it and they're not just the front man for like a private equity firm. But it's interesting that that Sorkin called that out. He is the best for a reason. Anyway, what's Ryan Harmon up to? He's cutting the number of calories in a new product called Hall Pass. Yep. One third the calories, one third the ad space, Hall Pass. This is from Peter Rahal. Correct? Yep. Very cool. So you know him from RxBar. You know him from David, the protein bar. [00:39:46] S1: Sorry. I wanted to Am I right? I wanted to include Sorkin's line Please. Before we move on. Please. He Sorkin said, and this is 2014. He says, they appear to be living out a childhood fantasy using other people's money, some of whom may not even realize it. Wow. And it took over a decade for the chickens to come home to roost Wow. On that one.
00:39:46 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Bar Winkler
[00:39:46] S1: Sorry. I wanted to Am I right? I wanted to include Sorkin's line Please. Before we move on. Please. He Sorkin said, and this is 2014. He says, they appear to be living out a childhood fantasy using other people's money, some of whom may not even realize it. Wow. And it took over a decade for the chickens to come home to roost Wow. On that one. [00:40:09] S0: Very very interesting. [00:40:11] S1: Anyway. He also called it a lawsuit waiting to happen. Anyways, back to advertising. Whole path. Yeah. Day Job and Medici, which is the parent company of of David and and now Hall Pass. They've just been cooking together. They had the the same team behind the the fish campaign, which I still we're still it was so odd that it's stuck in your mind. Yeah. I've [00:40:36] S0: gone back and forth on did they ever actually sell boiled cod? [00:40:40] S1: Yeah. Did. They did. [00:40:41] S2: They did. [00:40:41] S1: They it. [00:40:42] S0: But they didn't but it's not like an actual SKU. [00:40:45] S1: It was a SKU for a period of time. [00:40:47] S0: Oh, for a period [00:40:47] S1: of time. [00:40:47] S0: But it was like a special launch, special drop. There there [00:40:50] S1: See if you can still [00:40:50] S0: get They're not in the business. Because there is a business there. Like, people people do buy boiled cod. I [00:40:57] S1: don't know. They still have canned cod for sale on the website. [00:41:01] S0: Maybe it'll be the biggest skew ever. [00:41:03] S1: Wild cod Atlantic cod.
00:41:03 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:41:03] S1: Wild cod Atlantic cod. [00:41:05] S0: Yeah. It happens. Okay. Let me tell you about console. Please. Console builds AI agents that automate 70% of ITHR and finance support giving employees instant resolution for access requests and password resets. Now The great Dyson. The great Dyson debate. TJ Parker kicked it off. He said apparently unpopular opinion. Dyson products are generally not very good. David Senra. Someone needs to check-in on him. But strongly agree, though my girls love their air wraps, says Bryce Roberts. A couple other people saying, yep, my wife got a vacuum. It was terrible. Felt like a total psyop. A lot of people are upset. The Matic founder's chiming in. I got got an alternative for you. [00:41:51] S1: Woah. He's saying that it's likely ruining your rug slash carpet. [00:41:55] S0: Oh, interesting. Dyson rug shed and Dyson suction is very adept at making it shed faster than necessary. Interesting. [00:42:04] S1: Okay. Okay. I'll start with what I I I think the Dyson business is incredible. The story is incredible. I think that the making things that look like halo weapons for [00:42:15] S0: Oh, yeah. Stuff around the home That [00:42:17] S1: is a is a very cool way to differentiate. Mhmm. And I appreciate the over engineering, like, everyday objects. I I'm I'm not saying I'm buying into it, but I'm but I appreciate that that someone's doing it. Somebody needs to make a $500 toothbrush. [00:42:32] S0: Okay.
00:42:32 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:42:32] S0: Okay. [00:42:34] S1: But that being said, I I saw this and I was like, you know what? That kind of I I that does resonate because every time I have a Dyson vacuum at home and I've had various Dyson products over the year, and the vacuum in particular, it just feels like a little bit like creek like it's like creaky. It feels a little bit it feels a little bit cheap. Yeah. And I always want to put it away because I don't like this like halo weapon, know, a home cleaning device doesn't exactly fit in to the overall design [00:43:06] S0: say you don't live at the city. Say your house doesn't look like it would be welcoming to the flood. Come on. You gotta you gotta design your whole house to fit the aesthetic. [00:43:15] S1: Yeah. You [00:43:16] S0: That's gotta have a banshee upfront. [00:43:17] S1: A banshee upfront Would be would fix me. [00:43:20] S0: Yeah. I think you forget how bad it was before Dyson. [00:43:25] S1: Yeah.