00:42:27 · Guillaume Moubeche, Alan Chang
[00:42:27] S1: So for you, basically, like, people can reach their base potential simply because they are the typical profile that are, like, fast learners and will develop fast in an environment with surrounded by other, like, 10x engineers? [00:42:42] S0: Yeah. Like, they they they learn from the colleagues very quickly. But also, like, you know, like, ultimately, we try to tackle a very, very large problem. And by def... By definition, that... What that means is, like, there's so many opportunities for someone to, you know, just take. Right? Like, if you look at a normal big company, right, it's actually inverse. Right? There are more people who want to seize opportunity than available opportunities. So that... Therefore, you you... That's why you you get politics. Right? Because [00:43:14] S1: It's a it's a problem of supply and demand, essentially. [00:43:17] S0: Right. It's zero sum game. Right? It's just like... Is it the fixed pie... There's a fixed pie. Right? Like, you know, fixed pie of of opportunities. Therefore, in order for me to win, I need to take it for someone else. But at least in our environment, that's not true. Right? It's inverse. Right? We have almost, you know, infinite pie, but, you know, lack of people who can solve it. Right? So, you know, if if you can take more opportunities yourself, like, you know, go for it. Right? [00:43:42] S1: Do you have examples of people in your company who saw opportunities that you didn't initially see and who actually delivered on a a new project, a new product?
00:43:42 · Guillaume Moubeche, Alan Chang
[00:43:42] S1: Do you have examples of people in your company who saw opportunities that you didn't initially see and who actually delivered on a a new project, a new product? [00:43:51] S0: Yeah. A good example is, like, a product we're building right now. Right? It's... Basically, it's like a micro solar battery, right, product. Like, this was not part of our original plan, But, yeah, one of our engineers saw, you know, this was super popular in Germany, and thought, okay, actually this... And and it's not, you know, legal anywhere in the world right now. Right? So this is like... You know, as a reminder, this is like a product designed for, you know, renters or people who live in apartments, but don't necessarily own their own roof. So this is like a 2.5 kilowatt system where you can hang your solar off your balconies or put your battery in your living room and just plug it in. So no electrician, professional installation required. And, yeah, convinced, okay, this is very good for the customer. We were targeting roughly three three year financial payback. So it basically almost become a no brainer. Right? So... And now this is like one of the top priorities in the company. Right? And I'm here every day in the warehouse, you know, working with the engineers to to launch this product by end of the year. So, yeah, something we... You know, something I didn't think of, you know, when we started the company. [00:45:17] S1: Nice. And do you see, like, AI having, like, an impact on your company and on the things you can build?
00:45:17 · Guillaume Moubeche, Alan Chang
[00:45:17] S1: Nice. And do you see, like, AI having, like, an impact on your company and on the things you can build? [00:45:27] S0: We sounds... Yeah. Yeah. I have sound like it's I think AI is amazing acceleration for the most productive people. Right? I certainly have become more productive. A lot of people in the company have just started to become more productive. So we in fact... We we have a dedicated AI team to just build, like, AI agents. Alright? So our first priority was customer agents. Our second priority will be, like, internal agents that will make everyone more productive. [00:45:59] S1: Like, do you have, like, a example of agents that you would like to do internally to make people more productive? [00:46:05] S0: Yeah. So for example, we wanna build a PR reviewer agent. Right? So, you know, you put in the system prompt all the engine principles we have, and it can basically review PRs and make suggestions, you know, before it gets to, like, a human review. So that's that's one example. Another example would be, right now, we spend a lot of time doing error tracking. Alright. So if people engineers on call, then they look at every single error and then do a deep dive and and try to... Yeah. If I could generate PR, right, that solves the problem. So we wanna build, like, a error tracking agent that can digest the error and propose a PR before human review reviews. So I'll save, you know, some time from, like, yeah, recourse diagnosis and and and and and writing some code.
00:46:05 · Alan Chang, Guillaume Moubeche
[00:46:05] S0: Yeah. So for example, we wanna build a PR reviewer agent. Right? So, you know, you put in the system prompt all the engine principles we have, and it can basically review PRs and make suggestions, you know, before it gets to, like, a human review. So that's that's one example. Another example would be, right now, we spend a lot of time doing error tracking. Alright. So if people engineers on call, then they look at every single error and then do a deep dive and and try to... Yeah. If I could generate PR, right, that solves the problem. So we wanna build, like, a error tracking agent that can digest the error and propose a PR before human review reviews. So I'll save, you know, some time from, like, yeah, recourse diagnosis and and and and and writing some code. [00:47:07] S1: And do you feel like... Are you allowing your design team to code also or not at all? [00:47:15] S0: Yeah. They can code. Like, all the designers say, he... Like, he's, you know, designing back office right now and from scratch. And before he gets into high fidelity designs, he he uses... He vibe codes, basically, back office to see what it looks like, how the navigation looks like before going to design. So, yeah, like, for sure.
00:47:15 · Alan Chang, Guillaume Moubeche
[00:47:15] S0: Yeah. They can code. Like, all the designers say, he... Like, he's, you know, designing back office right now and from scratch. And before he gets into high fidelity designs, he he uses... He vibe codes, basically, back office to see what it looks like, how the navigation looks like before going to design. So, yeah, like, for sure. [00:47:38] S1: Okay. Because one of the struggle I've seen at our company, it's like product... We have, like, a product team. So they're starting basically, like, trying to push code in production, but the senior dev team essentially starting to be not a lot about writing code and a lot more about reviewing, like, existing codes. Is it something that's coming up also for you and the engineering team, meaning that now the code can be essentially be kind of written by itself with code code or whatever model you're using, and essentially being only on the phase of reviewing? Like, what's what's your vision about this? [00:48:15] S0: Yeah. So I think... Yeah. So I think humans will go from less writing and more reviewing. I I I think that's the direction of travel. [00:48:23] S1: And do you feel like this is an issue for developers? Or [00:48:28] S0: I don't think issue. Right? It's more... You're making, you know, humans more productive. Right? By automating one part of the job, you make them become more productive.
00:48:28 · Alan Chang, Guillaume Moubeche
[00:48:28] S0: I don't think issue. Right? It's more... You're making, you know, humans more productive. Right? By automating one part of the job, you make them become more productive. [00:48:41] S1: Okay. Okay. Okay. Really cool. I know we're almost, like, out of time, so I want I want to also be cautious. I I would like to touch base on on another topic because you're obviously, like, quite young. You've made money very, very young, and and also, like, now you're running this billion dollar company. Do you basically, like, feel lonely from time to time because of, you know, like the pressure that you might have, the fact that you're building, a company that probably the friends you had when you were, like, younger are not experiencing, like, the same life changes as you are growing maybe, like, as fast as you are?