Sachin and Adam
00:01:36 · Adam, Sachin
[00:01:36] S1: Right. We're back. We're back recording here. Woah. Building the public podcast. Yeah. There'll be a Hindling household. There'll be an intro that will go above all this stuff, but I don't know. I I, like, really enjoy being on the mic now more than I think I ever have. I think it's about having, like, a nice setup, but also having, like, so many thoughts almost to get out each week. Like, I I feel like I look forward to these episodes Yeah. Better than I would have. [00:01:59] S0: It's a of a release. Like, it's sort of like a cathartic release where there's so much happening, so much head noise, so many worries, and actually, like, putting them out onto the mic, like, allows you to just be sort of [00:02:08] S1: free again a little bit. Yeah. What's, top of mind for you at the moment?
00:02:08 · Adam, Sachin
[00:02:08] S1: free again a little bit. Yeah. What's, top of mind for you at the moment? [00:02:12] S0: Last week was different to other weeks because it was a ramp up in... Of intensity. So we actually made our first hire. We hired a full time video editor from The Philippines, and he's an absolute gun. Cultural fit. He's ambitious, and he's a great editor. But that meant that was a week of onboarding, which is really fun, but it was tiring. And at the same time last week, we started filming. We did two episodes. They went different sort of ways. And I think we started to feel like, okay, we're starting to get a lot on our plate. And I did, like, a big reflection this morning to my elephants accountability group chat. And the thing I reflected on is that prioritization is sort of easy when, like, not everything feels important and, like, that urgent, but now things are starting to be important and urgent. It's like now we're really having to, like... We're even having to put things on the back burner that feel important, and we're having to be like, okay, what do we need to
00:03:05 · Adam
[00:03:05] S1: get done in the next few days? Yeah. I've been feeling that as well. Like yesterday... I think I worked almost all weekend, and yesterday I had this moment where I was like, shit. There's like 15 things on our plate right now that Yeah. Feel urgent, feel important. But I think also, like, my whoop recovery on the weekend was crap. And I also think that when I'm mentally feeling not good, those feels... Those things can feel more overwhelming. Like, now I think about them and like, we can get everything done. And I was almost like, I woke up really excited this morning, Monday morning. Like, actually I wake up a lot more excited on Mondays and I had never had in my whole life to just get to it and get things done. But I think maybe this is a good point to reflect on like learning some hiring. So we had 400 people apply for this job that we put out there. And I think this is our... Both of our first time was running a hiring process. So there was a mixture of thinking about it from first principles of like, Hey, if we were in a hiring process, what would we want to do? But also like trying to get the best practices. Like we've been reading books, we've been watching courses about best practices in hiring. And I found that whole experience really, really great. I think there was a few key takeaways for me. First is that like that classic line of that talent is distributed evenly, but opportunity isn't. We're looking at a lot of people from The Philippines, and we met some phenomenally talented people. And there was like, out of all the people we interviewed, I think there's a lot of them that we could have potentially hired. And it
00:04:23 · Sachin
[00:04:23] S0: was actually very difficult to make that decision in the end. Mhmm. There's this weird trend of thought. It goes around on Twitter a lot where people, like, always bias against hiring overseas because they sort of think it's, like, exploitative, but it's nothing but. Like, maybe there are people that exploit, but, like, we're offering a really good salary that's, like, quite a bit higher than, like, the starting salary for Filipino, typical video editor. So you're not only giving someone in a developing country a really good income, but you're also getting talent, like, really good talent and for a fraction of your price. So it's, like, really a no brainer.
00:04:54 · Adam
[00:04:54] S1: Yeah. And and, like, when we say good talent, it's like extraordinary talent. Like our video editor, John, he worked in like film production before. He had a lot of experience in a lot of different things. And like, I think out of everyone that made it to the final round of our process, like we had, you know, first application process, then we got people to send the Loom video, then we interviewed about 10 people. You know, all of them could have done the job really well, but what we really liked about John is he had taste. There's something I remember he said to us is he said like, everyone in The Philippines seems to like editing the Alex Hormozi style clips, and something he said was that that's overdone. And he said that, you know, a lot of people do that. We have room to experiment more with our creativity. And I think that's something that really spoke to us because I think skills are very easy to learn, but taste is very hard to, like, get in the long term. And I think that's something that we want to be doing with our content and something we've actually been reflecting on the last week, which is just like, I don't think we want to put anything out there that one doesn't change someone's life or two, we we don't think is like the best interview in that category of that person. And and this word we've been using a lot in conversation is seminal, like seminal writing, seminal pieces, things that aren't just in like the top news feed for that given day and then disappear in time, things that people can keep coming back to and are such high quality that they almost make you feel something when you consume them. Yeah. I think, like, that was, like,
00:06:14 · Sachin
[00:06:14] S0: a really big reflection point last week. So we did two episodes. One episode was with an investor in The States who's highly acclaimed. But the episode, it's our fault, but we had a lot of technical difficulties because we were using this new software platform, and it felt so protracted, and we didn't quite get into flow. So I don't think we're gonna release that, and we're gonna have to navigate how we kindly tell people that because that's just reality if you wanna have a really high quality bar. But then we did an episode on Friday with David Perell, and it went for, like, almost two hours, and we were talking to him after. And that episode, I'm gonna... I can't wait till we rewatch it. It fucking changed my life. It was such a deep conversation about career, ambition, god, relationships, psychology, everything. Like, it was sort of meant to be a tech style episode, but it wasn't. And you could tell that there was something special there, that there were conversations that he's a really big figure in the tech world. He's had done a lot of podcasts, but there were things that haven't been said before and questions that hadn't been asked. And, like, I remember very distinctly having this feeling mid episode where I was like, if you paid me... If you said I could never make over, like, $50,000 and all I had to do for the rest of my life was, like, sit in a room and interview interesting people like Dave, like, that would be, like... That would make me so happy. Like, those are the sort of conversations I fucking live for, and it was incredible.