Inspired with Alexa von Tobel
00:19:59 · Alexa von Tobel, Garrett Langley
[00:19:59] S2: you think public safety could look like? And what... Like, how do you think about the evolution of flock safety in that category? [00:20:06] S0: So I think there's a few parts that I'd look at. The first is, you know, I've been going back and forth with a couple of chiefs and mayors in major cities and trying to ask the question of, like, why isn't there a Teach For America style concept for local law enforcement? Like, how do we actually rebuild kind of the public perception of what it means to be a public servant? Because I think Teach for America did an incredible job for our elementary and middle school and high school system to bring in people who wanna just help the world. So I think there's this idea that that we have at least where if you look at a police department today, let's call it a third, a third, a third, a third in patrol, a third in investigations, and then a third in back of house. And the back of house is like report writing. It's policy writing. It's going through all of the challenges of running a police department today that didn't exist a decade ago. I think all that goes away. Like, that that is just so obviously can be replaced with software and AI. [00:21:08] S2: Of course. That's what's happening in medicine. Right?
00:21:08 · Alexa von Tobel, Garrett Langley
[00:21:08] S2: Of course. That's what's happening in medicine. Right? [00:21:10] S0: What you notice in medicine too is that the bedside manners and their efficacy efficacy goes up because they're spending less time being a note taker and more time being a doctor. And more importantly, being a doctor, you're having a physical, very human interaction with. And so when I think about law enforcement in a decade from now, I'd like to imagine a world where our our investigations unit actually has come down. Our back of calluses come down dramatically. And we've reallocated all of that resourcing into a patrol led model that's very community oriented. And what I mean by that is, you know, I think about my own experience in Atlanta. I don't know the officer that patrols my neighborhood. I think that's a total shame. Was like, when I'm in a moment of crisis, I kinda wanna know who that person is before that happens. But today, they're so overworked and understaffed. All they can do is respond from 911 to 911 and never catch a breath. And so I have this vision, Alexa, of a world where can we double the size of something like the Atlanta Police Department's patrol unit? So they have more time to spend in the, more time to build relationships, and get rid of all the back of the house stuff that's, like, not... It's not critical to be done by humans. But there's gotta be a way we can do it more effectively.
00:22:25 · Alexa von Tobel
[00:22:25] S2: So basically, what you're saying is actually shifting potentially about a third of the workforce into the field such that we actually have safer streets, safer homes, and potentially even increasing the bedside manner of... And and I I did think about this the other day. It's funny that you you say that. I was like, I wonder who would be the person that would show up at my house if I had, like, a mate. And I was like, I I should know like that. And and they made that, like, I know who my local representative is hard. Like, why don't I know that? Because god forbid something horrible happens. I I do wanna know. I actually like to use the minority port kind of style advance because we've all seen that movie of just like technology being so good that at some point it can even predict a crime is about to happen and stop it and serve... And, I mean, you have gunshot detection. I mean... And that can call 911 immediately with... As a parent of three kids, like, think I... Please do more of that. Yeah. But talk a little bit about what are the things that you have to be really thoughtful about so that we don't end up in, a minority port style where, like, a robot comes and, you know, cuffs me?
00:23:38 · Garrett Langley
[00:23:38] S0: Yeah. Well, so it's it's funny. People pick on the minority report, and there's one thing that minority report did really well and one that they did really poorly. On the right side, you think about it, it was decades of arrests with only one wrongful arrest. How nice for the happy of our current judicial system and policing system only had one wrongful arrest and multiple death threats. That that sounds great. I think what we all get uncomfortable with, which I agree with, is this idea of inhuman thing, a pretty cog in the face of the movie, making this pretty terminal decision. There's steps in crime. There's notification that something's happened. That might be a 911 call to... In a in minority report that's this pre cog saying, hey. Something happened. Then there's an investigation. And then there's the, you know, making the arrest, closing the case. I think that a human should always be involved in the firm. Hey. Should shouldn't we go investigate? Is this a real crime? I think software and AI can completely run the investigation. Like, there is nothing particularly human about saying, hey. I'm gonna go look at this camera. I'm gonna go pull this cell phone tower dump. I'm gonna go look at this person's background. All these things. But then a human should be at the end saying, okay, Alexa, do I think this is enough burden of evidence to make an arrest? And I think that's actually a very human thing because I think societally that is gonna continue to change. I think the burden will continue to go up in a very good way. Like, I think that the the advocates who are against kind of increased police technology are missing that with this increased policing technology, we can increase the burden of an arrest and actually decrease what is one of our societal kind of black eyes of wrongful arrests. Like, how often... Too often do you see someone who's been in jail for a decade for a crime they never committed?
00:25:37 · Alexa von Tobel, Garrett Langley
[00:25:37] S2: Because I'm really fascinated by this. What is the role of drones in the future of public safety? What's what's really clear to me is that cameras are gonna get incredibly inexpensive, and I'm sure at some point, like, really, like, you know, a dollar per camera type price. You can have cameras everywhere being recorded twenty four hours a day. And to your point, you can use AI to parse through those to pull the minute when actually the, you know, black SUV showed up. Let's talk about drones. How do you think about the world of drones? [00:26:08] S0: We've deployed drones in some of the cities we work with that have a higher crime rate. We can detect the gunshot with our audio devices and have a drone there within under a minute. Whereas today, you know, some of our cities, you know, might deploy drones, you know, every so often. Our most advanced cities, drones get on scene first 94% of the time. [00:26:32] S2: Wow.
00:26:32 · Alexa von Tobel, Garrett Langley
[00:26:32] S2: Wow. [00:26:32] S0: And the level of kind of... Yeah. The level of precision. I'll give you one other example, Alexa, which I think speaks to the positive impact. So one of the towns we work with, they have a major mall. The mall is a customer. It's locked. And a car comes into the mall. It's a felony warrant on this vehicle. This person is known to be armed and dangerous. It's like not good. Right? And this is the busiest part of this town. Normally, happens is SWAT gets called in, and there's blue lights, there's automatic weapons, there's, you know, heavily armed, you know, response. And that would've been on the 05:00 news, and that mall would have had kind of quite a bit of a challenge over the coming months. And more importantly, someone probably was gonna die. And it was gonna be the the individual with a warrant, an officer, or an innocent bystander. Instead, what happened was this customer's kind of got the full Flock technology set. They get the alert. A drone is dispatched. Now, they also, in our system, can see that this this individual has a distinguishable tattoo on the forearm. The drone from over almost a half mile away can zoom in, finds the individual with the tattoo, can also see the individual is not currently armed and take him down from behind. No one has any idea. It's like this level of precision, this level of safety has never been seen before. And I think that's just like one in the last few months of thousands of examples where drones can just really change the way law enforcement works.