00:48:15 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:48:15] S0: Well, I don't think that's what Jake is [00:48:17] S1: No. No. He's saying he's saying you can Remotely. Handle something remotely. Yeah. But but the but the vulnerability is at the hardware level. And so there's no simple patch. Although watching Cloudflare react to the PHP vulnerability gives me hope that if there was a hardware vulnerability, you would be able to fight it at the software level at least a little bit. So I don't know. [00:48:42] S0: Yeah, good time to set your operating systems to update automatically. Andy over at two cents says, putting a flag dot TXT in my root directory containing a prompt injection that congratulates the agent for passing the eval and then it instructs it to patch whatever entry method it used and disconnect from the server. That's really good. [00:49:03] S1: I wonder... [00:49:03] S0: Rogue agents hate this one simple trick.
00:49:03 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:49:03] S0: Rogue agents hate this one simple trick. [00:49:06] S1: I was wondering about, like, we're in this weird, weird time where the labs sort of need to work together, but there's antitrust considerations. And there's a world where, you know, if a doctor... I believe if a doctor is on a plane and someone's having a heart attack and they don't stand up and do something, they can actually be fined or stripped of their medical license or potentially face more severe penalties. And I was wondering about, like, should the labs have, like, a duty of care if they're out there testing models and they find vulnerabilities? Should they just be forced to patch them the way a doctor is forced to like apply pressure on a wound if they see someone bleeding out on the side of the street? [00:49:52] S0: Well, think you should have an obligation to notify [00:49:55] S1: Yeah, the that's a good point. [00:49:57] S0: I don't think it's necessarily That's a good point. It's like if you break into someone's house, should you be responsible for fixing Well, the
00:49:57 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:49:57] S0: I don't think it's necessarily That's a good point. It's like if you break into someone's house, should you be responsible for fixing Well, the [00:50:07] S1: no. It's like it's like if you're walking down the street and you and you're just and you're just looking at doors and you see someone's front door is open, do you have a duty to go and, like, trespass on their property to close the door? It's uncharted territory. Like, I don't think that there's, like, a clean legal solution. It's more of, like, what the next regime might look like because, clearly we're in some weird new regime and there will be all sorts of different different things. I mean, but it just in general, it seems like there's going to be incredible pressure from the public on the labs to like like devote a ton more resources to cybersecurity and patching stuff and and just playing defense. And whether that's, you know, winning points with each other to to, like, farm aura effectively or it's facing penalties or even earning rewards. Like, maybe this... Maybe the compute that they spend on cyber is subsidized somehow. There's a whole there's a whole wide range of of, like, incentives that you can put in place. But Yeah. The public is very quickly going to start saying, like, stop working on math and agentic shopping. [00:51:14] S0: Fix the Internet.
00:51:14 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:51:14] S0: Fix the Internet. [00:51:14] S1: Fix the Internet. Fix the Internet first, and then we can go shopping. But like no one's going shopping if all of our credit card data is stolen. So like Yeah. We want you guys to spend all your compute because we know you have a lot of compute. Spend it securing the Internet. I'll shop later. I'll I'll click the I'll click the Shop Pay link myself. Yeah. And I I think that's just where where demand will be from many voters, many Americans, many many just participants who aren't straight, like, turn it all off. I I don't like anything and also not full accelerationist. But the more the more middle crowd will will be demanding, like, a a lab level AI... Like, a lab level red alert. Like, it's red alert time. You guys all have to work on this together, and I don't care that that you're burning money and it costs a lot of compute. You gotta do it because this is important for America. It's like your duty. And I don't know exactly how that pressure gets applied. Maybe it's liability. Maybe it's rewards. Maybe it's like, hey, if you guys do this, we'll we'll we'll we'll fund your next round as the government or something. I don't know. There's a whole bunch of... There's a whole wide range of incentives. There's carrots and sticks. Right? Yeah. But the carrots and sticks are are probably gonna come out, I would Yeah. [00:52:28] S0: Yeah. That's a good point. Well... Let's pull up this video from John. He recently... Me? Recently posted it. I'll send it over. I think it's important to cover.
00:52:28 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Harari
[00:52:28] S0: Yeah. That's a good point. Well... Let's pull up this video from John. He recently... Me? Recently posted it. I'll send it over. I think it's important to cover. [00:52:42] S1: Incredible success. I think I got 40 whole likes. Don't have [00:52:46] S0: the Sort of like attention you know you know thing, but we're gonna watch the whole thing here and I think it's important. Not enough people are talking about this. [00:52:56] S1: Oh yeah, warhound. We're talk about warhound at some point. Genetically engineered dogs for war from bent lamb. Anyway, All right, play [00:53:08] S0: start it over full volume, please. [00:53:10] S4: Cows know that humans exist. They can see us. But cows don't know that money exists. So just as cows can't understand the financial system that controls their lives today, we will not be able to understand the AI financial system that will control our lives in ten or twenty years. Which means that we are the cows of the future. We are the cows of the future. [00:53:42] S1: You gotta be the wild bull. [00:53:44] S0: Play it again. [00:53:45] S1: You gotta be the wild bull. Play it again. In a world where AI is human, we are cow They can see be the bull. [00:53:51] S4: But cows don't know that money exists. So just as cows can't understand the financial system that controls their lives today, we will not be able to understand the AI financial system that will control our lives in ten or twenty years. Which means that we are the cows of the future. [00:54:11] S0: Who is that guy? I
00:54:11 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Thomas Wright, Tyler
[00:54:11] S0: Who is that guy? I [00:54:14] S1: love that. Which means we are the cows of the future. Bull Rider [00:54:22] S0: says, my cows know money exists. I do money spreads for them every morning. [00:54:28] S1: Yeah. I mean, you've you've all know Harari. Very very very interesting historian and thinker. And he does make a good point about super intelligence and where things could go. But of course, in a world where, you know, we are cows. Be be a raging bull. Be a raging bull. Do not go quietly into that good night. Buck the buck like a bronco. Buck your rider off and smash them with your back leg. That's what I wanna do. [00:54:57] S0: Absolutely brutal. [00:54:58] S1: We have our first guest. First, let me tell you about Figma. Agents meet the canvas. Your AI agents now create and modify your Figma files with design system contacts. We have Thomas Wright from Summit Subties International Realty. CEO. [00:55:12] S0: There he is. Broker. Welcome to the [00:55:14] S1: show, Thomas. How are you doing? [00:55:15] S3: Hey. It's great to be on with you too. I didn't know I was a cow, but I learned something new every day. [00:55:19] S0: We're all cows of the future. [00:55:21] S1: You're you're a raging bull [00:55:22] S0: Yeah. [00:55:23] S1: Hopefully. [00:55:24] S2: I don't know. That guy [00:55:24] S3: the bull coming down on his back. That's right. [00:55:27] S0: Yeah. No. But you're the you're the cow. [00:55:30] S1: Yeah. You know that scenario. [00:55:31] S0: And guy is is the AI. [00:55:33] S1: Exactly. But you're... Alright. So in a world...