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01:39:56 · David Rosenthal, Ben Gilbert
[01:39:56] S1: Right. [01:39:57] S0: In Seinfeld, they they do some live switching, but that's kinda to get a feel. All of the real work is done in post, which gives them the flexibility to do two things. One, to make all the cuts much tighter. The scenes can be shorter, and you can get more scenes in and more situational jokes. And two is it lets you tell jokes you couldn't otherwise do. So if you think about the episode, the contest, where, David, you you mentioned, being master of your own domain, there's a joke where the way the joke is told is they're cutting to each of those characters, and you're seeing them lay in bed, and they're either restless and they can't sleep, or they're sleeping like a baby. And that's the joke as it cuts around. That's impossible to do in a live Switch show because there's no way to make those cuts in front of a live audience. You have to just go record all the material and then have a whole step after that of sitting there in a editing bay making the cuts be the jokes. [01:41:00] S1: And, of course, that adds production complexity and expense. It's kind of a way to get closer to the single cam Yes. Film like ethos. That's exactly right. It's hard,
01:41:00 · David Rosenthal, Ben Gilbert
[01:41:00] S1: And, of course, that adds production complexity and expense. It's kind of a way to get closer to the single cam Yes. Film like ethos. That's exactly right. It's hard, [01:41:11] S0: but these guys are nut jobs. They're obsessives. They're purists. And so they want all the flexibility and pacing of editing a movie while also getting the benefit of what you would get with a live audience at a play that laugh to let you know if the joke is landing or not. And so they kinda threaded this needle and invented a novel production process to get the best of both worlds. [01:41:31] S1: Yep. Yep. So at the end of that half season midseason replacement, Seinfeld does get picked up for a real first full season, season three of the show. [01:41:43] S0: Still with kind of a cult following. Exactly. It's starting to catch.
01:41:43 · Ben Gilbert, David Rosenthal
[01:41:43] S0: Still with kind of a cult following. Exactly. It's starting to catch. [01:41:46] S1: Still on Wednesday nights. They're not on Thursday nights yet. But even at the end of season three, that first full season, Seinfeld was the forty second ranked show on television. Seinfeld's got this cult following, all this creative juice, but certainly not the centerpiece for the network. But season three would be the last time that, that would be true and really that any of the actors in the show, be they leads or guest stars, could live a normal life ever again. But before we tell the story of how Seinfeld finally caught on and became the Seinfeld that you know it today, now is a great time to thank our good friends at Sentry. Yes. That is s e n t r y, like someone standing guard. Which is exactly what Sentry does for developers. Sentry helps teams debug everything from errors to latency issues, basically any software problem, and fix them before users get mad. So, David, I wanna talk about the whale. My favorite episode. We're gonna spoil it. [01:42:59] S0: The show gave us the single best root cause analysis story ever put on television. Absolutely. Perfect illustration of why you need Sentry decades before Sentry was invented. [01:43:10] S1: I love it. In the [01:43:12] S0: episode where George pretends to be a marine biologist, he wades out to the beached whale that is in front of a crowd and comes back holding a golf ball that he pulled out of its blowhole. And he says, the sea was angry that day, my friends.
01:43:12 · Ben Gilbert, David Rosenthal
[01:43:12] S0: episode where George pretends to be a marine biologist, he wades out to the beached whale that is in front of a crowd and comes back holding a golf ball that he pulled out of its blowhole. And he says, the sea was angry that day, my friends. [01:43:26] S1: The actual root cause of the golf ball being in the blowhole of the whale is Kramer from way earlier in the episode when he was hitting golf balls into the ocean. Nobody in the audience connected those two storylines until George pulled out the Kramer golf ball. [01:43:48] S0: And that is exactly what a real software outage postmortem feels like. Yes. Yes. There is the hero of the story who gets paged in the middle of the night and that they try to fix the issue, but then there's the golf ball. Some small change that shipped a long time ago that nobody mentally connected to the thing that is currently on fire. The hard part is not noticing the whale on the beach. It's realizing that, ah, it is actually the golf ball causing the issue. [01:44:21] S1: Yep. Yep. And that is what Sentry does. It takes the thing your users are yelling about and traces it back to the exact change that started it, which release, who was impacted, and the very commit or very golf ball with the developer's name on it. Then all that context goes straight into whatever writes the fix, whether it's Claude Code or Cursor or Sentry's own agency, which finds the issue and opens the PR for a human to review.
01:44:21 · David Rosenthal, Ben Gilbert
[01:44:21] S1: Yep. Yep. And that is what Sentry does. It takes the thing your users are yelling about and traces it back to the exact change that started it, which release, who was impacted, and the very commit or very golf ball with the developer's name on it. Then all that context goes straight into whatever writes the fix, whether it's Claude Code or Cursor or Sentry's own agency, which finds the issue and opens the PR for a human to review. [01:44:52] S0: This is why 200,000 organizations run on Sentry, whether it's a solo side project or the engineering teams at Anthropic, Vercel, Linear, or GitHub. You can learn more about where software gets fixed at sentry.io/acquired, or click the link in the show notes and just tell them that Ben and David sent you. [01:45:11] S1: Alright. So here we are now in the fall of nineteen ninety two heading into season four, the second full Seinfeld season. The show is this cult hit. [01:45:23] S0: It's maybe a little more than that. Season three averaged 18,000,000 viewers per episode. [01:45:27] S1: Yep. But it still hasn't cracked the Nielsen top 30.
01:45:27 · David Rosenthal, Ben Gilbert
[01:45:27] S1: Yep. But it still hasn't cracked the Nielsen top 30. [01:45:30] S0: Which is crazy, though. I gotta interrupt you. The 18,000,000... That's not in the Nielsen top 30? Today, you would never ever ever see 18,000,000 people watching a single thing no matter how good a show is other than, like, NFL and NBA games. I mean, there were four networks. That's what you watched. No Internet, baby. Phones, podcasts, short form video. I mean, cable had just started coming up, but most of America's attention is still on one of those four broadcast networks in primetime. So 18,000,000 viewers an episode not cracking the top 30 is nuts.