Sachin and Adam
00:04:11 · Sachin, Adam
[00:04:11] S1: lot of partying together, and we were both 19 or 20 at that time. I think this was the first time in my life that I had actually really connected with someone on, like, I don't wanna say a spiritual level, but it's like when a lot of your interests align. Like, we both like startups. We both like gym. We both like working out. And I think now, like, that's a very common archetype. But back then, there wasn't that many people in that archetype that were meditating, listening to Tim Ferriss. It's a bit of a meme now, but, like, back then, that felt like something kind of new to me. [00:04:39] S0: But I feel like that's still a service level understanding of it. Like, I think what we had together was depth. Like, we could go very, very deep with each other and have this relationship where there was no holding back. Like, we just told each other everything, discussed everything in a way that, like, I've never seen friends do or, like, even relationships do. Sort of weird. [00:04:59] S1: So, like, on that, we did, like... I remember... You... Do you remember we did that vlog? We did, like... We were trying to produce content about our exchange experience. We never actually published it. Adam cringes at that vlog. [00:05:08] S0: Every time I go back to see, like, something Sachin and I, like, started or filmed, like, a few years ago, I actually start to, like, almost vomit. Me? Maybe that's a good thing because it means that, like, as you progress over the years, you're, like, improving and you're becoming as cringe, but, like, we did some cringe thing.
00:05:08 · Adam, Sachin
[00:05:08] S0: Every time I go back to see, like, something Sachin and I, like, started or filmed, like, a few years ago, I actually start to, like, almost vomit. Me? Maybe that's a good thing because it means that, like, as you progress over the years, you're, like, improving and you're becoming as cringe, but, like, we did some cringe thing. [00:05:21] S1: It was very lifestyle esque. So we we came back to Sydney. We started a podcast, and the reason we started that is we're extremely bored in economics history lecturer. We decided to, hey. Let's just go record our exchange experience. And funnily enough today, I think it's been almost five years since that first episode. Someone messaged me saying that they watched it, and then now they're gonna go to Utrecht on exchange. Yeah. [00:05:44] S0: Yeah. So the beginning of it was like, it was very natural. We're just talking to people we found interesting. And it's like, weren't marketing. We weren't trying to do anything with it. It was like, we just had lots of conversations. We love to learn. So we had on political activists. We had on bodybuilders. We had of... Had on positive psychology experts. We had on Trump supporters. We had very listening people. We just had chats with them, and it was, it was quite fun and interesting, but it started to change over time.
00:05:44 · Adam, Sachin
[00:05:44] S0: Yeah. So the beginning of it was like, it was very natural. We're just talking to people we found interesting. And it's like, weren't marketing. We weren't trying to do anything with it. It was like, we just had lots of conversations. We love to learn. So we had on political activists. We had on bodybuilders. We had of... Had on positive psychology experts. We had on Trump supporters. We had very listening people. We just had chats with them, and it was, it was quite fun and interesting, but it started to change over time. [00:06:13] S1: Yeah. I think, like, the idea here is that like your content really reflects who you are in that moment. And in that moment when we first started, that was us. We're interested in a very wide variety of things. We're trying to create something maybe like Joe Rogan or Tim Ferriss esque. But as we started to get more interested in technology, our content started to reflect that. So we started interviewing entrepreneurs. I think one that I remember really clearly was Tim Fung from Airtasker. That was like... He's a fan of Airtasker. That was our first, like, big startup CEO that we got on. And then we also started to go more into the venture capital route. A particular episode there was Adam Milgrom, who's ironically now one of our investors, but he was talking about, like, you know, venture capital as a way of, impacting people, and he runs the Giant Leap Fund, which is which is the social impact fund.
00:06:59 · Adam, Sachin
[00:06:59] S0: Yeah. And taking it back, like, a little step, like, we weren't trying to be Tim Ferriss or Joe Rogan. Like, we maybe talked about a diverse set of subjects, but it was literally just like, I sort of feel like we were lost and we were trying to find our way in the world. Yeah. Like, we're interested in business, wanted to do something socially impactful, and we didn't know what it meant. And this was, like, our vehicle to be curious and to talk to people that had already done stuff. And so we're getting, like, sometimes, like, a thousand views, sometimes a few thousand views to go back to it. Was very, very tiny. But it was literally just our vehicle to discover the [00:07:29] S1: world and be curious. Yeah. And we, you know, we kept go... Ongoing with it even when, like, views were quite low. I think the big big break for us was getting Malcolm Turnbull on, who is a former prime minister of Australia. And some of those TikToks on that went to millions of people. And I think that's... For me, it's like, personally, when I first started to consider, hey, this is actually something that could go somewhere, but I never thought about it as a potential career. I never really thought about something that would go full time in anytime soon. Now this isn't a normal podcast advertisement because we're lucky enough to partner up with one of our favorite companies in the Australian ecosystem, Kinde.
00:07:29 · Sachin, Adam
[00:07:29] S1: world and be curious. Yeah. And we, you know, we kept go... Ongoing with it even when, like, views were quite low. I think the big big break for us was getting Malcolm Turnbull on, who is a former prime minister of Australia. And some of those TikToks on that went to millions of people. And I think that's... For me, it's like, personally, when I first started to consider, hey, this is actually something that could go somewhere, but I never thought about it as a potential career. I never really thought about something that would go full time in anytime soon. Now this isn't a normal podcast advertisement because we're lucky enough to partner up with one of our favorite companies in the Australian ecosystem, Kinde. [00:08:06] S0: We actually had Ross from Kinde come on our podcast a few years ago, and we're blown away by his vision for wanting to help enterprise businesses get started and scale quicker. [00:08:16] S1: Kinde is taking the auth world by storm, and CEOs that have come on our podcast have outlined that privacy and data security is one of the biggest threats to their business. But there's a problem. Auth is stuck in 2010. It feels clunky, the UI isn't very nice, and Kinde has come along to change this problem.
00:08:16 · Sachin, Adam
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