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00:01:02 · Sarah Guo, Jacob Helberg
[00:01:02] S2: So let's get right into it. Three months ago, you announced Paxilica, a super ambitious coalition. Can you explain what it is and where you are in it? [00:01:11] S0: Yeah, absolutely. So I gave a speech at the Hudson Institute that was really meant to be our blueprint for Paxilica. Paxilica is an economic security coalition that now has 14 countries. And the idea is really to have an ecosystems based approach to our supply chains, and specifically the AI supply chain. And in my speech at Hudson, I outlined our different lines of efforts, including our policy roadmaps and our projects. And about a week and a half ago, we basically did the first big, what would be the tech equivalent of a product rollout where we announced a forward deployed industrial base with our oldest ally in Asia, The Philippines. We made this arrangement with them where they are granting us 4,000 acres, which is obviously very substantial. It's a third of the size of Manhattan to do a very large industrial build out that's one of a kind that helps combine the predictability and certainty of the American common law system with the industrial comparative advantages that The Philippines offers. And the goal is really to secure inputs that are vital for our supply chains. And so we're super excited to be here in San Francisco, talk to builders, and see ways that we can actually accelerate supply chain security for our tech companies. Is this set up
00:01:11 · Jacob Helberg, S1
[00:01:11] S0: Yeah, absolutely. So I gave a speech at the Hudson Institute that was really meant to be our blueprint for Paxilica. Paxilica is an economic security coalition that now has 14 countries. And the idea is really to have an ecosystems based approach to our supply chains, and specifically the AI supply chain. And in my speech at Hudson, I outlined our different lines of efforts, including our policy roadmaps and our projects. And about a week and a half ago, we basically did the first big, what would be the tech equivalent of a product rollout where we announced a forward deployed industrial base with our oldest ally in Asia, The Philippines. We made this arrangement with them where they are granting us 4,000 acres, which is obviously very substantial. It's a third of the size of Manhattan to do a very large industrial build out that's one of a kind that helps combine the predictability and certainty of the American common law system with the industrial comparative advantages that The Philippines offers. And the goal is really to secure inputs that are vital for our supply chains. And so we're super excited to be here in San Francisco, talk to builders, and see ways that we can actually accelerate supply chain security for our tech companies. Is this set up [00:02:23] S1: as a special economic zone in The Philippines? Or could you tell us more about the details beyond sort of the legal side that you mentioned?
00:02:23 · S1, Jacob Helberg, Sarah Guo
[00:02:23] S1: as a special economic zone in The Philippines? Or could you tell us more about the details beyond sort of the legal side that you mentioned? [00:02:30] S0: Yeah, absolutely. So right now, there are two phases to the plan. The first phase is the State Department taking into custody the zone. We are referring to it as an economic security zone because it is a very unique type of arrangement. The State Department has authorities to take in land and property into custody, sort of how foreign governments gift the State Department counselors and consulates and embassies. It's very unique to do a gift of 4,000 acres. But fortunately, there's no statutory limits on how big or small property can be. And so that's phase one. So right now, it's actually diplomatic property that is effectively, you know, governed by the same laws as our embassies are. Phase two will be the long term development and build out of the land. And so we are gonna spend we have two years, a two year window to negotiate the details with our Filipino counterparts on the investor protections that will apply to the land, the taxation regimes, and all of the different legal safeguards that investors will be able to benefit from for the long term. And the goal is within that two year window to actually have a long term framework that will be multiple decades. [00:03:51] S2: It's an amazing innovation. Are there specific domains that you think make sense to invest in there from a manufacturing, mineral processing, whatever it is, perspective now?
00:04:01 · Jacob Helberg
[00:04:01] S0: Yeah. So the goal is really to actually test a concept that could potentially be replicable. I mean, right now, if, you know, when we think about the AI supply chain, a lot of people just think of chips. But the reality is that the AI supply chain actually includes thousands of inputs like precision reducers and server motors and rare earth magnets and actuators. And our concentration risk as a country is incredibly high for basically all of those inputs. And so the goal is to identify key geographies that actually have industrial strengths and bring unique capabilities to the table that could actually help us move the needle meaningfully in different segments of the supply chain. So The Philippines already has a native indigenous manufacturing ecosystem that's already quite deep. It's our oldest ally in Asia. So we have a very deep values alignment with The Philippines. And so we think that the nexus between the values alignment combined with their industrial advantages actually makes for a very compelling value proposition for a lot of companies. We're talking with a number of companies focused on their robotics supply chain. As you guys know living out here, and I'm sure you guys include robotics companies in your portfolio, but the robotics supply chain, robotics is an incredibly promising industry that really is poised to change a lot of things in manufacturing as well as in people's daily lives. And the supply chain is right now completely dominated by China. And so that's an area where that's, you know, we're particularly interested in potentially making a bet on.
00:05:43 · Sarah Guo, Jacob Helberg, S1
[00:05:43] S2: When most people hear economic security policy, one of the first things they think of is the Belt and Road Initiative. How would you contrast, you know, your strategy and the State Department's strategy here with that approach? [00:05:55] S0: Yeah. So that's such a great question. And I think, you know, one of the benefits that we've been able to leverage developing this strategy today is the ability to study twenty five years of, you know, of China's Belt and Road Initiative, how they've done what they've done, what's worked, what hasn't worked. Fundamentally Do you [00:06:17] S1: wanna explain what that is too for [00:06:18] S0: our audience? So the Belt and Road Initiative is a very, very large foreign policy project of the Chinese government that basically involved using state owned enterprises that are essentially extensions of the government to carry out massive infrastructure projects overseas. And the idea is using infrastructure projects as a tool of foreign policy to achieve foreign policy outcomes. [00:06:41] S1: So this was the big build outs, for example, in Africa that Exactly. China did in a variety of countries there.
00:06:41 · S1, Jacob Helberg
[00:06:41] S1: So this was the big build outs, for example, in Africa that Exactly. China did in a variety of countries there. [00:06:46] S0: That's right. So whether it's creating mines or processing facilities, a lot of the times it involved building out very big roads, sometimes bridges. A lot of the times, it included railways. And and fundamentally, what it was was state owned enterprises building government operated railways, government, you know, built roads and bridges. And the Chinese government, by virtue of its system, really built all of this in house, which for us, you know, when we think about how should we we want to secure our supply chains. We need to make a lot of investments, you know, that are you know, touch upon these kinds of industrial capabilities. But as Americans, we're not gonna do this in house inside of the government. [00:07:33] S1: The side effects of this for China was basically both building out their industrial base, but then also securing natural resources in some of these countries.