00:15:22 · Joe Weisenthal, Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:15:22] S0: Yeah. And so... Yeah. [00:15:23] S2: I think I think what we need to see is, like, real agency. And I don't mean, like, age... I don't mean agents of, like, you're telling an agent to go and do something. Yeah. Yeah. You need, like... You know, right now, we have the equivalent of, like, every company has access to like a 100 PhDs, they just like sit in the room and they don't even talk or they don't Right? Even look so the... I do think the next leg up can come from like, hey, I'm setting a budget cap. Now use that most effectively to improve my business. Right? [00:15:50] S0: You know, I've played around with it. [00:15:51] S2: And that's effectively what you do on Meta, which is like, you're like, here's how much I'm willing to spend. Mhmm. Get me as many customers as you [00:15:57] S0: can. Right. [00:15:57] S2: Yeah. And I do feel like what... What's missing is still true agency. Right? And so agents are, like, almost like... [00:16:07] S0: No. That's true. The agents that [00:16:08] S2: we have today are, like, really all, like, sub agents in some ways. [00:16:11] S0: Right? That's right. And... [00:16:12] S2: They're only they'll only do things that they're told to do. And so... [00:16:15] S0: Well, they're also they're also clones of each other. Like, this is like another issue, which is like, you think, like, oh, if you gathered a 100 PhDs in a room and told them to go Yep. Accumulate customer, do whatever. It might actually work. But if it was a 100 of the exact same PhD who had all done the exact Alex who's over at Google. [00:16:33] S1: Love him.
00:16:33 · John Coogan, Joe Weisenthal, Jordi Hays
[00:16:33] S1: Love him. [00:16:34] S0: Yeah. He's a cool guy. He's talked about this. Like, part of the reason Yeah. This hasn't really... Like, people haven't really cracked, like, sort of, like, autonomous multi agent teams Yeah. Is that it's actually kinda all the same agent Yeah. In many cases. You sort of need to get a Thunderdome, like, battle... Make them battle out with, like... Get them, like, genuinely different points of view. [00:16:53] S1: Yeah. And I don't [00:16:54] S0: know if anyone's, like, gonna crack the right orchestration for them. [00:16:56] S1: I mean, people used to just, turn up the temperature on these. Do you remember this? Yeah. Like I [00:17:00] S0: forgot about temperature. No one's sure. No one's Yeah. Some of these things [00:17:03] S1: still feel like silly. Going back and forth for just get... Getting, like, a weirdness up and get it... Get... To let... Let's get some more hallucinations. Yeah. I mean, people were saying, like, hallucinations are sometimes like a feature more more than a bunch of, like, not... You don't always wanna hammer it out because you want some creativity. [00:17:18] S2: Yeah. Are you how are you thinking about your refrigerator at home? Is it Wi Fi connected? [00:17:24] S0: It's not WiFi connected. But I've had a... [00:17:26] S2: Even if it was, you would you would say that it wasn't. My... [00:17:30] S1: So you're a Target.... [00:17:31] S2: Lock in and heat up all your beers. [00:17:33] S0: Oh, god. No. At any... Stumping someone's beers [00:17:38] S1: is diabolical.
00:17:38 · John Coogan, Joe Weisenthal, Ryan Serhant, Jordi Hays
[00:17:38] S1: is diabolical. [00:17:39] S0: I I bought my, refrigerator, like, two years ago. Amazingly, the ice maker works. I've never had it... My whole life, I've never had an ice maker works that long. Luxury. [00:17:46] S1: Can you make a hassle? Can [00:17:47] S0: you Yeah. Make No. My life is pretty good this day. [00:17:49] S3: I got [00:17:50] S0: the ice maker still. [00:17:51] S1: I do [00:17:52] S0: have a Wi Fi enabled Dude. Air conditioning. I hate it. So, like, I actually could... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I've, like, you know, if I'm coming into town or something like that, [00:18:00] S3: I can turn on the air conditioning before I [00:18:02] S1: get home. That's great. That's great. [00:18:04] S0: I can never... Like, when the the Internet is down or whatever, like, I don't know where my actual remote controls are. [00:18:10] S2: Yeah. Use case. Agent runs, detects your location at JFK. [00:18:15] S0: So this is what we're talking about. Now that would accumulate some tokens. You know, like, this would get some demand going. Constantly checking Joe and whether we think he's near your home [00:18:24] S1: or not. Dinner reservation with artificial intelligence yet? [00:18:27] S0: No. The... I have I have not [00:18:30] S2: yet. Yeah. [00:18:31] S0: I have... And I have not booked a flight yet either. [00:18:34] S1: Okay. [00:18:34] S0: I've tried to book a flight. [00:18:35] S1: Okay. [00:18:36] S3: And I was just like,
00:18:36 · Ryan Serhant, Joe Weisenthal, John Coogan
[00:18:36] S3: And I was just like, [00:18:38] S0: because it was like... It's just like... I I... So I tried using Muse Yeah. Yeah. To, Metas Media to book a flight, and it, like, pulled up the United website. [00:18:46] S1: It's hard because, like, the UI is pretty I was too decades of work on UI for showing you, does it have a connection? How much does it cost? Like, all the information that you want is already vended to you. [00:18:57] S0: So So it's like, I will actually... Look. I'm I'm AI pilled on that stuff. [00:19:01] S3: Like, I [00:19:02] S0: think it's gonna be a really nice thing. [00:19:03] S1: Yeah. [00:19:04] S0: People's like, do this. Do this for me. Oh, I I did have, so I was... I said this on the podcast Yeah. Like a week or so ago, but I had four days at home with just... It was just me and the kids. My wife is out of town. And it happened to be a stretch of a few days where there was a lot going on Okay. For both kids, you know, for Yeah. [00:19:22] S1: Of course. [00:19:22] S0: Parties and stuff. And I was just so nice being able to go into ChatGPT and say, where do I [00:19:27] S1: need to be in the next hour? [00:19:28] S0: Yeah. Okay. Now where do I need to [00:19:30] S1: take hour? Yeah. [00:19:31] S0: I'm just, like, scan through all my [00:19:32] S1: emails. Yeah. I've been a fan [00:19:33] S0: of just So... [00:19:34] S1: Take a take a messy calendar and turn it into, an infographic.
00:19:34 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays, Joe Weisenthal, Ryan Serhant
[00:19:34] S1: Take a take a messy calendar and turn it into, an infographic. [00:19:36] S2: I'll try and share it you. You ever get asked to, like, describe one of your children to, like, in, like, a parent teacher context Uh-huh. Ask the AI. It will just nail it. [00:19:47] S1: Right? Don't don't worry. [00:19:48] S0: You're stuck [00:19:49] S2: if you're stuck [00:19:49] S1: and you just have [00:19:50] S2: no idea what to say [00:19:52] S0: the information [00:19:53] S1: is Yes. Cute. [00:19:55] S2: Dude, do you [00:19:55] S0: know what we're referencing? What? [00:19:57] S2: Oh, this is Now this Marissa Mayer. Old Marissa Mayer. [00:20:00] S1: Yeah. She has a new start up. The New York Times kind of cherry picked the worst, most unrelatable quote potentially is [00:20:07] S3: I did see that. [00:20:07] S1: Yeah. It was rough. What about Halloween? What were you for Halloween? [00:20:10] S2: They're they're throwing... I've thrown you they've thrown you out. It's [00:20:13] S0: crazy. Sense of whimsy. [00:20:14] S1: No sense of whimsy? [00:20:14] S0: No. No. I've have no sense of whimsy. [00:20:17] S1: That doesn't match with my understanding of you at all. [00:20:19] S0: I know. [00:20:19] S1: I feel like [00:20:20] S0: Both my kids, like, wait. Someone's a ninja. [00:20:22] S1: Okay. Someone [00:20:23] S0: was a fury. My wife put on a I [00:20:25] S1: like that. Wait. Wait. I I like that the family, the Weisenthal family, doesn't go for specific intellectual property? Is that to stay away from potential lawsuits? [00:20:34] S0: That's right. No. No. No.
00:20:34 · Joe Weisenthal, John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:20:34] S0: That's right. No. No. No. [00:20:36] S1: But but it is a lost art to just be like, I'm going as a zombie as opposed to, like, I'm going as the rebooted Frankenstein that features Jacob Elordi or whatever. Like, people love being, like, a particular moment, a meme, an IP, a character, a moment, a reference. A couple years ago. I like just being... It's a fairy. Yeah. Yeah. [00:20:52] S0: It's an No. They'll get [00:20:53] S1: it. It doesn't need to be this No. It's for the great Gable. That's great Gable. [00:20:58] S0: Love I love that. Thank you. That we went hard. I gotta, you know We went done the the dedicated [00:21:03] S1: We gotta get we gotta get Odd Lots to do a Halloween episode. Yeah. We should. Full makeup. We'll introduce you to [00:21:08] S2: our people. A We great... We have a fantastic [00:21:10] S0: has a sense of whimsy. [00:21:11] S1: Okay. I [00:21:12] S0: don't have... [00:21:12] S1: So she... So we'll get her to twist her [00:21:14] S0: arm. Yeah. There we go. If you work on Tracy, then she [00:21:17] S1: could convince me. Okay. Well... [00:21:18] S0: But I'm just like, no. Don't believe in fun over here. [00:21:20] S1: Yeah. We can teach this old dog new tricks. [00:21:23] S2: Yeah. We'll see. We we had more time. [00:21:25] S0: Yeah. Thank you so much for joining. [00:21:26] S2: Enjoy your tallboy. Enjoy your tallboy. I had no idea that I made these. We're doing [00:21:32] S1: tallboys on the on the stream. I'm gonna crack mine open right now. Oops. Kinda went everywhere.