Y Combinator Startup Podcast
00:48:09 · Susan Kare
And I think this is debatable, but he took lots of visiting executives to see this movie. And I liked it because it had Welder in it. Jay Chiat started the ad agency that Apple used, Chiat/Day. And this was kind of the, it was not work life balance at the time, and everybody I worked with in the software group had a sleeping bag in their cube. And I think this is really good to remember. I know a couple companies I've worked for, we kind of decided that 15 people, you could still have consensus hiring and everybody in a room and be on the same page and then you start to get more people and there's a plus and an upside and a downside. And Andy said this, he gave me this advice showing stuff to Steve. He's like, don't show him one thing because he'll say he doesn't like it because it maybe forces you to go try and do it again and be better. But if you show a few things, then he can be involved and say that something is terrible, but still pick something. And this is advice from my mom, and I think it's very good advice. This is Evan Sharp and Ben Silberman who started Pinterest, and they had a lot of good ideas, but Evan used to say this. This is Dennis Wang, who started working at Google when he was an undergrad at Stanford, and he's a terrific computer scientist and artist. And he told me this, that was the prevailing wisdom at Google, and I would probably preach the same thing, like don't mess around with the logo and put it in a different color and put it on a crazy background until people know it so well that you can play with it. But obviously they did, Dennis made these, they did pretty well with this. And this is something a friend's dad told me. This is not political. It's just a fun picture I found with an accordion. And you know this guy, he has a lot of truly good advice, including this. But I don't think it means be discouraged and quit trying. It just means, oh, maybe it's time to go on to the next idea. And thank you, but also really thank you to Y Combinator. I kinda had an amazing day today and everything ran so smoothly and everyone was so gracious, and it just seemed like I felt envious of everybody taking part in this event because it just seemed so cool. Thank you.