00:50:07 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:50:07] S1: to make willing [00:50:08] S0: to make the three screen phone. Yeah. And you won't give me just the one big screen I can put in my house when I know you have I know you have the technology. Yeah. And you could literally charge like you get so much utility out of a TV. I think the aesthetics of a TV matters so much. [00:50:22] S1: Yeah. [00:50:22] S0: Totally. Because it totally changes a... [00:50:25] S1: They made a gold Apple Watch for $10,000 [00:50:27] S0: Their version of the TV would would be stunning. Yeah. It would be it would it would like... [00:50:33] S1: Look at Samsung Frame. [00:50:34] S0: The video itself. Yeah. The Samsung frame and again People get that there's nothing more annoying than you get the Samsung frame and it's it's immediately slow. Like it's a ten year old piece of technology because it's so loaded up with with junk. [00:50:50] S1: Yeah. I'm very [00:50:52] S0: disappointed. Speaking of television. Okay. Instagram is coming for YouTube. Okay. [00:51:00] S1: What's happening?
00:51:00 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:51:00] S1: What's happening? [00:51:00] S0: Rachel Carton, an amazing Substack creator, author of Lincoln Bio, says, Today Instagram announced they are testing long form horizontal videos called features. The platform wants to be a place where you watch a ninety second video and a ninety minute video all on your TV. They are also testing lives in the reels tab, a hub for series and more. So coming straight for YouTube, I like it. I think more competition is good. I'm interested to see how YouTube responds to this. You know, when when Netflix started courting YouTubers, YouTube said, hey, if you put your videos there, we're gonna destroy your reach. We'll see what they do here. The the feature that I think is most interesting, so Yeah. Masary was talking about this on Colin and Samir's show. Cool. Right now, there's... We have a big problem. And we may have played a part in it, but the big problem is that you get a clip, right? And you get like this really interesting moment and... [00:52:01] S1: We're all looking for the guy who did this. [00:52:02] S0: Yeah. We're all looking for the guy who did this. But you get this bit, you get you get this interesting, you know, And thirty seconds, let's some percentage of the people watch the clip and then go find the full length thing. But most of the people get like, they feel some emotion whether it's joy or rage. [00:52:18] S1: Some percentage, like two basis points. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:18 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:52:18] S1: Some percentage, like two basis points. Yeah. Yeah. [00:52:23] S0: We've we've noticed this where like our our core show Yeah. The recording of the live and the diet, they just sort of grow at a steady rate every single day. But like a viral clip here and there doesn't actually drive like a huge uptick. Yes. And so that's just proof that [00:52:38] S1: But it can drive like a conversation. Yeah. Drive it a distillation of like, wait, that's all they talk about all day? You know, like Yeah. People can see it as like a... [00:52:45] S0: And so what I think is interesting here and I'm sure that YouTube will respond in in some way, it feels relatively straightforward to implement, is like you'll be able to watch a clip and then just click into the... Like, while on Instagram, click into the main, the full video [00:53:02] S1: Yep. [00:53:02] S0: To that to that point and then you can like watch the whole conversation around it. Cool. I think it's gonna be very healthy because... [00:53:09] S1: Yeah. This is... That's good. [00:53:11] S0: Yeah. Because we we've had instances in the past where like someone, you know, watches one of our clips, gets angry at it and like because of something that we said, you know, immediately outside of that like short little bit. And it's like now we understand that that's like a reality of the situation and and that could potentially be bad or good or whatever it is. Yeah. About this arrow? But I think just like more more competition
00:53:11 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:53:11] S0: Yeah. Because we we've had instances in the past where like someone, you know, watches one of our clips, gets angry at it and like because of something that we said, you know, immediately outside of that like short little bit. And it's like now we understand that that's like a reality of the situation and and that could potentially be bad or good or whatever it is. Yeah. About this arrow? But I think just like more more competition [00:53:33] S1: is good. And and because I I think I didn't have my question and and I was like, oh, I I I actually asked exactly what you're saying in the question but we didn't clip the question. So it looked like the answer was not aware of that or something. [00:53:48] S0: Don't know. Yeah. [00:53:48] S1: It happens all the time. [00:53:49] S0: Yeah. No. The big one is like this... There was controversy around a... Like an animal wildlife bridge [00:53:58] S1: Oh. [00:53:58] S0: Here in Southern California. [00:53:59] S1: Yeah. Yeah. [00:54:00] S0: Yeah. And I... We are very pro the wildlife bridge. The only thing I was like not so pro was the fact that it was running years and years over schedule True. And you know, $100,000,000 more than it should have cost and all these things. Of course, that cons... The the those elements got lost. Yeah. But anyways, I will be very curious if people start watching Instagram on on TV.
00:54:00 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Joey Brookhart
[00:54:00] S0: Yeah. And I... We are very pro the wildlife bridge. The only thing I was like not so pro was the fact that it was running years and years over schedule True. And you know, $100,000,000 more than it should have cost and all these things. Of course, that cons... The the those elements got lost. Yeah. But anyways, I will be very curious if people start watching Instagram on on TV. [00:54:25] S1: Should the... Should Instagram make a TV? Because it would spy on you for sure. It would definitely be tracking everything to sell you more products and target ads. But I feel like the Instagram team would at the very least make it fast. They would not accept slow performance. They will track they can show [00:54:47] S0: you more ads. Exactly. The funny thing is when I'm when I'm like when I'm on my Samsung TV, I'm really only seeing like one. I mean, they don't even serve great ads. That's the most annoying thing. Like Yeah. Serving me. I have never I've never clicked on a gambling ad in the Samsung TV. Yeah. And that's just like like maybe at some point learn that maybe they're just like [00:55:14] S1: percent of advertisers quit before they're back [00:55:17] S0: to hook a new... [00:55:18] S8: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. [00:55:19] S1: Oh, did you see the you see the new call she had with Shane Gillis? [00:55:24] S0: It was kind of... I saw it. I didn't watch it. [00:55:26] S1: It was really it was really polished. Was really well done, I thought. It was very, very funny. Yeah. And... [00:55:32] S0: Yeah. A lot of people were, like, reluctantly giving them props.
00:55:32 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:55:32] S0: Yeah. A lot of people were, like, reluctantly giving them props. [00:55:35] S1: Yeah. I mean, it was kinda... It kinda had a complicated story. Like, it's like these two dueling weathermen and, like, it just escalates in this interesting way. Like, it was like a it was a sketch. Like, it was like a whole four minute production. It was it was cool. Anyway, we have our next guest joining in just a few minutes. Let me tell you about Figma. Agents, meet the canvas. Your AI agents can now create and modify your Figma files with design system context. And should we go over to the timeline? The Tesla Roadster was on display at the Peterson Museum in Los Angeles. I didn't make it over to see it in person, but reviews were very positive. Everyone says it looks like a spaceship. People like the way it looks. But also it doesn't have... [00:56:19] S0: It really looks like a young person drew it. [00:56:23] S1: That's the best. [00:56:24] S0: But that can be a