00:35:11 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:35:11] S0: That's wait. Did you look it up? Yeah. Yeah. The long one's $2.30. The the short one's $1.50. But I I think most people would look at this and be like, okay. It's a sock. Like but it's from Apple, so it's probably, like, $30, maybe $50. Some people were surprised that it was a little bit more expensive. But, you know, it's from this famous designer, and it's this interesting status symbol. The question is, like, this could be like I, like, I don't think I'm gonna be using this thing no matter what. The question is, is this gonna be like libooboos and gonna be, like, super popular or, like, Stanleys? Like, will this become actually like a very, very popular form factor in America specifically? I don't know. It's hard to tell. I I'm not really the person to like, you know, handicap it. I I think Apple knows what they're doing. I think they'll I think they'll make money on this certainly. [00:35:59] S1: Yeah. I ever since the the AirPods AirPods early on looked really silly. Mhmm. And I could see this becoming I could see this becoming a popular form factor for accessories. [00:36:12] S0: Yeah. [00:36:12] S1: And I could see Apple seeing like, hey, there's a world where we not only sell a case with every iPhone, we can sell a a sock. [00:36:21] S0: A sock. Well, the sock maybe makes it so that you don't need a case because this is your case. Like, if you have it in there and then you drop it, like, it's kinda nice. [00:36:32] S1: And it's kind of a crazy weapon. Defense weapon. Yeah. Self You
00:36:32 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:36:32] S1: And it's kind of a crazy weapon. Defense weapon. Yeah. Self You [00:36:35] S0: can swing it around and smack people in the face with it. I don't know. The colors are pretty cool. And I don't know. It's it's clearly not for me. But I think I'm gonna buy four of those for for Christmas. We'll see. And give them out to people. [00:36:49] S1: Get ready for your iPhone sock, buddy. [00:36:51] S0: Well, speaking of socks [00:36:54] S1: We gotta talk about [00:36:54] S0: is stunning in some what are these? New shoes? Travis Scott's new fragment a j one lows. These are Nike shoes, I suppose. But these are not Air Force Ones, I suppose. [00:37:08] S1: I really don't know how make those shoes. [00:37:10] S0: But but everyone's saying he low key got aura. And so congrats to Tim Cook on looking great. And even though the succession planning is intensifying, the rumor mill is churning, obviously, Apple has not been commenting, but something's going on. [00:37:26] S1: In I mean, releasing this photo is more than a comment. It's a statement. I
00:37:26 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:37:26] S1: In I mean, releasing this photo is more than a comment. It's a statement. I [00:37:34] S0: like reading into it. He's like Just being like, oh, really? Oh, really? Financial Times? So the Financial Times has this article that says it says, Apple intensifies succession planning for CEO Tim Cook. The I iPhone makers board preparing for its longtime leaders to step down as early as next year. John Turnis, Apple senior vice president of hardware, is widely seen as Cook's most likely successor, although no decisions have been made. So, basically, everyone's been leaking this, whether it's Bloomberg, whether it's the Financial Times here. And and, of course, Apple is not commenting because they'll they'll talk about who they're going to move the market when they decide their next CEO. If they even if they don't even stick with Tim Cook Tim Cook. They might stick with Tim Cook for another two decades. Who who knows? But I like the idea that this photo came out being like, yeah. I'm not leaving. [00:38:20] S1: No comment, but I'll make a statement.
00:38:20 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Stacy Rasgon
[00:38:20] S1: No comment, but I'll make a statement. [00:38:21] S0: I'll make a statement. No comment, but I'll make a statement. I do do wanna have some folks on to debate, like, whether or not I I was thinking we should invite John Gruber on because he wrote this piece like Something Is Rotten and Cupertino, all about the failure of of Apple intelligence. And when we talked to Mark Gurman, we saw like, Gurman was also saying, like, yes. Like, Cupertino really was shook by the like, dropping the ball on on Apple Intelligence by missing AI. But I I still wonder if all of this is is there's all these rumors. Oh, Tim Cook's gotta go. Imagine if you [00:38:59] S1: post that picture if if we see a real correction in AI. Yeah. Just post caption, do nothing, win. [00:39:05] S0: Do nothing, win. Yeah. [00:39:07] S1: Stock stock pumps 10%. [00:39:10] S0: I missed artificial intelligence, but I didn't miss getting this fit off. I'm having a good time. What else is, in the news? Vanta. Automate compliance, manage risk Founder. Prove trust with AI. Vanta helps you get compliant fast, and they don't stop there. Their AI and automation powers everything from evidence collection and continuous monitoring to security reviews and vendor risk. There's a bunch of more news. [00:39:32] S1: To talk about paper hands. [00:39:33] S6: Paper hands. This [00:39:37] S0: is the fakest of news. Get ready for the fake news hour, buddy. What Peter [00:39:41] S1: Thiel sold his stake. Entire stake [00:39:44] S0: Everything. In [00:39:45] S1: video. And 76 percent of his friend's company Tesla.
00:39:50 · John Coogan
[00:39:50] S0: Okay. Yes. So this is from a so this is from one of those 13 f's disclosure form with the SEC from Teal Macro, his fund, his his some of the money that he runs. But, of course, it's very people read into 13 f's all the time for a variety of reasons, and they sort of get it wrong a lot, it seems like. And so zero hedge sort of sums this up where he says, Peter Thiel net worth, 20,000,000,000. Teal macro AUM, 75,000,000. Like, what's going on? What make it make sense? And it's almost certainly because of disclosure rules. Like, what needs to be disclosed, might only be a fraction of what's actually going on there. So, odd to read into it, but at the same time, I think the reason why this made headlines is just because it feels like something that might happen. Like like, if if instead this headline had been, oh, like, Peter Thiel went on a podcast and said that he thinks the AI bubble is top has reached the top. Everyone would just be like, oh, yeah. Like, that's feels like people have been waiting for someone to call the top. And so they're really, really, like Yeah. Digging in for top signals and top calls. And this slight change in the in the, in the 13 f. Even though the odd part is that if you actually read the 13 f, which, of course, is just this, like, $75,000,000 slice for whatever for for whatever reason, Even if you dig even if you read that, like, the other three holdings are still big tech companies. So it's not, like, super bearish. It's like there's some Microsoft in there. I think there's some Apple in there.
00:41:32 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Stacy Rasgon
[00:41:32] S1: Yeah. And the Teal Matt the Teal Macro team is trying to generate the greatest returns that they possibly can. [00:41:39] S0: They go viral. They're trying to go as viral as possible. So [00:41:43] S1: They don't care about IRR. They just wanna go viral. [00:41:45] S0: They just wanna go viral. [00:41:46] S1: They're just trying to create headlines. No. They're trying to generate returns. [00:41:49] S0: Yeah. Finishing that deal. [00:41:50] S1: It's possible to sell a stock that you're that you're still bullish on or at least that you expect, like, amount of price appreciation [00:41:59] S6: Yeah. [00:41:59] S1: Or even long term price appreciation. [00:42:01] S0: And, also, like, there's all these weird, like, tax, you know, implications of, like, selling one thing. Like, it's not even clear that this is all of his NVIDIA. Like, no one's no one's gotten to the bottom of that. I don't know if they ever will. But people love people love deep diving 13 f's. And they are so and they are fun. Situational awareness [00:42:18] S1: is certainly a bull market in thirteen [00:42:21] S0: Thirteen f deep dives. [00:42:22] S1: Deep dives.