Founders in Arms
00:39:40 · Immad Akhund, Jack Zhang
[00:39:40] S1: a of [00:39:41] S0: people, this is, insane of, like, have so much pain in life, like, have to deal with so many difficult problems. But it's almost like every problem is an opportunity to just become better. And you get a lot of dopamine, but just like solving problems, and the the more difficult problem you solve, the more happier you are, the better that you... The more you feel you're alive. [00:40:04] S1: I mean, it's it's even more extreme than that. Like, I think to some extent, you kind of end up chasing the pain. Like, Yeah. Absolutely. You know, if it if it gets easy, I'm like, oh, why aren't we pushing ourselves? Like, why are we growing faster? Why don't we learn something else? [00:40:16] S0: I I, you know, I watch in the news when the Evolve news happened and, you know, you guys are heavily based on Evolve. Can't... I was just like talking to my friend. I can imagine what IMAD is going through now, like, to deal with that. That that should happen, Just you [00:40:29] S1: in a normal Tuesday. Alright. Maybe a couple more things that we wrap up. Which founders inspire you the most these days?
00:40:29 · Immad Akhund, Jack Zhang, Rajat Suri
[00:40:29] S1: in a normal Tuesday. Alright. Maybe a couple more things that we wrap up. Which founders inspire you the most these days? [00:40:40] S0: I think it's not like a single founder anymore. I used to really inspire by Elon and all the stuff that he's doing to advance the humanity. But nowadays, it's like I'm surrounding myself with a lot of the best founders in Europe. Right? So Manny from eleven Labs, Victor from Cincessia, and a lot of the early stage companies, like, just doing extremely well out of out of Europe and competing with some of the best companies in in America. And I think as outsider, not from Silicon Valley, built a company out of Melbourne that was no mentorship. And and I think this is, like, you know, like, well, seeing these founders, like, working extremely hard, and and I'm just getting inspired to work hard as well. Right? So... And, you know, we we we we all just wanted to carry that spirit. [00:41:31] S2: What has been the most difficult part of your journey to date? [00:41:35] S0: I think it's like, as a founder, you always believe in... I mean, at least I always believe in, like, a truth and and fair and justice. And when things that are not true, but that you have to deal with, you know, we just talk about, and that is... It's pretty difficult. Right? And it's almost like the perception is more important than the truth, and that you have to figure out a way to communicating the truth using all sort of tactic. And... But I guess that's just the the life a founder need to live in, and that's how we grow.
00:41:35 · Jack Zhang, Rajat Suri, Immad Akhund
[00:41:35] S0: I think it's like, as a founder, you always believe in... I mean, at least I always believe in, like, a truth and and fair and justice. And when things that are not true, but that you have to deal with, you know, we just talk about, and that is... It's pretty difficult. Right? And it's almost like the perception is more important than the truth, and that you have to figure out a way to communicating the truth using all sort of tactic. And... But I guess that's just the the life a founder need to live in, and that's how we grow. [00:42:13] S2: Yep. No. It's absolutely part of it. But, yeah. You sound like you're very good at pain tolerance anyway, you're going to be fine. [00:42:22] S1: Yeah, you'll figure it out. This is awesome Jack. Thanks for coming on. [00:42:28] S0: Cool. Thanks guys. [00:42:30] S1: Thanks everyone for listening. Please leave us a review on whatever channel you're listening on. Makes a big difference to the algorithm and to the success of the show and see you all next week.