01:59:57 · Luca Ferrari, David Senra
The same way as today, Bending Spoons is generally regarded as one of the highest talent density, best places to go work. It's not something we achieved overnight. It's a slow investment in that. And by the way, the test showed modest uplifts, but not enough in and of itself to justify maybe paying people 20% more. So I cannot definitively prove that we were right in ultimately increasing compensation a lot, but I believe we were. If you based your decisions on numbers alone, or primarily on numbers in every case, you're very likely to miss out on a lot of opportunity. I'm sure Steve Jobs would have said that numbers were occasionally interesting to him, but definitely not the guiding deciding factor in many of the best decision they made at Apple. So we we try to make the maximum possible use of of numbers, but with with skepticism and and and context. But logic and rationality, they never they never fail you. They're the best thing. [02:00:52] S0: Luca, man, out of all the founders I talked to, you're one of the least predictable people that I have conversations with. I really appreciate you exist. I love what you're doing at Bending Spoons, and I hope we have multiple conversations in the future. I really appreciate it. Time, man. [02:01:05] S1: Thank you, David.
02:01:05 · Luca Ferrari, David Senra
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