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00:19:45 · Catherine Rampell, Ed Elson
[00:19:45] S4: I was watching how different networks were covering the results today, and so I was watching Fox News earlier, and Trey Gowdy, who... If his name sounds familiar, he was like representative Trey, middle name Benghazi, Gowdy. He was complaining about how he anticipated that Democrats were going to use their gavels and their subpoena power to just, like, punish... Put... Know, do these... Mete out these political punishments to punish anybody who believed in the Trump agenda as opposed to looking at actual lawbreaking or pretend... You know, suspected lawbreaking. And so Republicans are already crafting that narrative around it even when they themselves, you might argue, were, again, looking at Benghazi, for example, and and made a dog and pony show out of all of that. But it will be challenging for Democrats to to show that they're, like, focused on the American people and their voters, the people who put them there, and not just, like, settling scores. [00:20:46] S3: Well, I hope they just provide evidence. And once we see evidence, then then we'll know. Were crimes committed? Just to wrap up, is this the end of MAGA in your view? Is this the end of Trump? Like, this is the most, I think, the most resounding message saying we've had enough of this. It's been, you know, ten, eleven years of of of Trump being around and the MAGA movement being alive and well. Do you think this is it?
00:21:17 · Catherine Rampell
[00:21:17] S4: I think it depends on how you define MAGA. I think there will be a power struggle in the next couple of years to sort of inherit that America First MAGA movement in a way that is not focused on Trump. Right? Because there's not a whole lot that the Republican Party writ large or MAGA stands for at this point beyond Donald Trump. They kinda like lopped off every limb that they could find. They they, my colleague Andrew Eggart talked about this recently at The Bulwark. But basically, they, you know, they cut off the neocons to begin with, the free trade people, the... Even the the people who cared about, like, religious moral issues. They they... They've kind of cut out... Even the people who cared about low taxes, if you think about tariffs, which are taxes. So they kind of cut out every principle that they stand for beyond Donald Trump. So what does that movement look like without Donald Trump? And I think that there is a lane for the more isolationist, maybe some of the uglier anti immigrant stuff, to persist even without Donald Trump leading it. Like, I could very well see a lane for a Tucker Carlson or someone like that. And maybe he won't call it MAGA, but it will be sort of inheriting maybe some of the uglier parts of the agenda, if not necessarily, I don't know, credit for the war, let's say, or the the tariffs.
00:22:46 · Ed Elson, Catherine Rampell, S0
[00:22:46] S3: His criticism of Trump at this point does seem strategically quite effective. He's in a he's he's in a better position this week probably than he was last week. Catherine Rampell is an economics editor at The Bulwark, anchor at MS Now, and host of the Receipts Podcast, which just launched. I encourage you to go check it out. Catherine, really appreciate your time. [00:23:08] S4: Thank you. [00:23:09] S3: After the break, what the midterm results mean for AI. And for even more markets insights, you can subscribe to my weekly newsletter, simply put, at edwardelson.substack.com. [00:23:28] S0: Support for the show comes from Morgan Stanley's podcast, Hard Lessons. Some investing lessons will become clear after you see how a call plays out. On Hard Lessons, iconic investors sit down with Morgan Stanley leaders to go behind the scenes on the critical moments, both successes and setbacks that shaped who they are today. Hear from iconic investors, including Stan Druckenmiller, John Gray, Rick Reeder, and Gene Hines as they revisit the calls that worked, the ones that didn't, and the moments that changed their thinking. You'll hear in their own words how they built conviction, what happened when certain calls didn't play out as expected, and what they learned from those moments. Watch or listen to hard lessons wherever you get your podcasts.
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00:25:14 · Ed Elson
[00:25:14] S3: We're back with Prof G Markets. Democrats pulled off a blockbuster sweep Tuesday night. And according to the exit polls, voters were focused on an issue that is somewhat new in America, and that is data centers. Voters approved more than 30 local measures to restrict data centers, while only one measure passed to ease restrictions. 56% of voters called AI and data centers a crucial or major factor in their choice at the polls. As a result, the tech market made some enormous moves. Neo clouds like CoreWeave, Oracle, and IREN all ended the day deep in the red. However, big tech companies like Apple, Alphabet, Amazon, Microsoft, and Meta added nearly a trillion dollars in market value. So what is next for the AI build out after the Democrats take over? Here to break this down, we're speaking with Alex Bores, New York State Assembly member, author of the RAISE Act, and founder of Who Decides. Alex, thank you for joining us on Prof G Markets. So this has been... We knew this was gonna be an issue going into this election. AI, data centers, this has been your issue. You've written legislation on it. This is really what you're known for. I don't think people expected it would be this big of an issue. And also so unanimous, your reactions to to what we saw in these midterms, specifically, on the data centers.