01:05:00 · David Senra, Rafael Vivas
[01:05:00] S0: Yeah. I think we... The very common trait among people that, like, where excellence is their north star, they get to top where their profession is just like, you'll hear them say the same maxim over and over again. It's like how you do one thing is how you do everything. There are no small details. [01:05:11] S1: Yep. And The The Score Take Care of Itself is just a book about Bill Walsh and, you know, the 49ers. When he took over the team, it was a losing team, and then he'd... Won over three Super Bowls under his management was about every little detail, every little thing between now, like, how they showed up on practice on time, how they answered the phones, how the locker rooms were. Everything... It was it was focused on, like, every detail, all the actions that you do are more important than focusing on the scoreboard. Because if you do all the little things right, then the score will take care of itself. [01:05:42] S0: So that's great advice that Mark gave you. What's the best advice that you've ever received?
01:05:42 · David Senra, Rafael Vivas
[01:05:42] S0: So that's great advice that Mark gave you. What's the best advice that you've ever received? [01:05:46] S1: The best advice I ever received is staying in the game. When it when it hurts, when you wanna quit, that's that's when you know you're having growth in your career. And there's been many times in my career where... And this has come from my brother where I've wanted to throw the towel and it's I've already won. You know, why why am I doing this? You know, I don't need to be working this hard. And he's just like, sack up. You know, work your ass off. And, like, if you're feeling this pain, that's because you're growing. And so I think that was the best advice I ever got in my career. [01:06:17] S0: I think it's probably the best advice anybody could ever get. Stay in the game. It's awesome. Rafael, this was awesome, man. I had high expectations for this conversation. You exceeded them. I really appreciate you trusting me and actually letting me twist your arm and making you do the podcast. I hope we can run this back again in the future. Thanks. [01:06:33] S1: Thanks, Seth. [01:06:33] S0: I hope you enjoyed this episode. Please remember to subscribe wherever you're listening and leave a review, and make sure you listen to my other podcast founders. For almost a decade, I've obsessively read over 400 biographies of history's greatest entrepreneurs searching for ideas that you can use in your work. Most of the guests you hear on this show first found me through Founders.