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00:01:44 · Hugo Philion
[00:01:44] S6: Too many of the same projects doing the same thing just about money, just about finance. I think myself and my team wish we didn't have to be associated with most of the people in the industry. What you see when you go to conferences, most of what people are talking about is either nonsense or incredibly dull. Development dollars could have been better spent on improving the technology. Blockchains need the ability to handle much more data and more computation. This means that people can build rules. Let's say you wanted to create a truly uncensorable Twitter. A way to do this would be using a blockchain, but you couldn't handle all of the users and data. So you need to take that, do that computation somewhere else. If I could truly find the score of a two player matchup, I can create a betting market between the world's largest gamers. People started using Bitcoin in places like Venezuela to hedge out insane inflation. There's not too much you wanna do actually on the blockchain. There's not too much you can do on the blockchain. Hi. My name is Hugo Philion. I'm the cofounder and CEO of Flare. Flare really is the only blockchain which we describe as third generation. It enshrines data directly into the chain. First generation being Bitcoin, simple transactions. Second generation being Ethereum, adding logic to those transactions. Third generation, Flare, adding data to the logic, has just hit about a million wallet, a 100 to a 150,000 daily active users. So they're bringing value from other blockchain ecosystems to Flare to be used on Flare with the data provision services that are provided by Flares within the blockchain environment. You shouldn't be doing anything based on trust because you don't know the counterparty and you don't have any legal recourse. Essentially what DeFi is doing today is it's using a trust based model, which is very similar to TradFi, except is that TradFi are bound by laws, whereas an Oracle provider has no laws. In order for DeFi or any other application that relies on data to be valid, you need to have a way to secure those oracles that is clear, open and provides a similar sort of safety as the blockchain itself. We think the best way to do that is to put the oracles fundamentally into the chain, bring DeFi actually decentralized.
00:04:01 · Hugo Philion
I grew up in London, which is pretty much the world's financial center at the time when I was growing up. Very small startup community, very little technology community. The financial markets were the only choice and obviously a place where one could potentially make large amounts of money, is very interesting to think about when you're 17. I suppose that macro economic and that's always been a things I like to think about. So I studied risk and financial engineering, worked at a number of hedge funds in London. After about seven years, I decided that I was just trying to eke out financial returns in order to make essentially myself rich. So I left finance, went to study machine learning at UCL in London, and that's where I met my two co founders. And I knew I probably wanted to be a founder. And when looking at machine learning, it's heavily dominated and therefore gives you no opportunity really. If you look at OpenAI, he ran Y Combinator. I certainly didn't have anywhere near his network to do anything in machine learning. One of our founders had built inter vehicle communications based on a distributed network like Bitcoin. And I'd had some exposure to blockchain from people I knew in the financial community. Ultimately, was a very interesting idea to me that we could do everything, especially financial things, without having to care about the counterparty. And I think that was one of the fundamental reasons why blockchain at the time and still does promising technology. So we started Flare in 2018, and we had a very small office in the basement, someone's photography studio. But as we were a team of three, I think one and a half desks. At the time, they didn't enjoy the benefit on Ethereum of
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00:06:44 · Hugo Philion
[00:06:44] S6: Smart contract. Essentially, the largest source of Bitcoin was known as wrapped Bitcoin, which is managed through a custodian, essentially antithetical to the concepts of Bitcoin, meaning you're relying on a middleman in order to use your Bitcoin on a smart contract platform. We started looking at, okay, well, how can we get the data around Bitcoin? We devised a protocol as to be able to get that data from Bitcoin to build a bridge that is over collateralized, meaning it has more value securing it than than the amount of Bitcoin that has been bridged using that bridge. And in order to do that, we needed price. So we ended up with these two data protocols. The first being a protocol that allows you to quickly and securely get data from another blockchain and also to be able to prove that a particular thing hasn't happened on that blockchain, and that's pretty key. So, originally, we designed the data protocol just to be able to build this bridge for Bitcoin. Ultimately, we very quickly realized that these those data protocols are much more interesting, that we could bring in data from any open system, pretty much any system in a decentralized way. That's the key point. It's decentralized and it has security. So this allows you to do everything you can do in DeFi today but with Flare. That's just the first step. What really interests me is then, okay, what can we build with that? This means that people can build the rules of an application they're building. Second aspect is then for us off chain compute. Far more data from other sources than can be used by the chain. So where are you gonna use that? You can prove very, very large amounts of data that you need to be able to use that off chain in order to build applications. So I think the blockchain today is at the limit, more or less of what can be built until you add in further compute. And that's when we can start building applications that people actually want to use. So for me, the first and most interesting thing to do is genuinely decentralized decentralize and make uncensorable social media or news platforms or video platforms. We see an increasing set of issues in the world where there is very high censorship, where people are struggling to express their opinion. Another set of applications around gaming.