How I Invest with David Weisburd
00:18:46 · David Weisburd
[00:18:46] S1: This whole question about VC scale is my answer to this Peter Thiel question, which is what do you disagree with with other smart people in your industry? And I think a lot of VCs will even say, well, you don't know fourteen years in because you invest at the pre seed and then fourteen years it takes to go to IPO. I think it's absolute bananas that that people people look at that kind of time frame. I think, really, there's two different aspects to it. One is if you if you look at GPs kind of from these two different frames that we looked at before, which is somebody that could get access, that's a skill, and somebody that could be nonconsensus. Sure. On the nonconsensus thing, it could be like SpaceX. It took twenty four years. So maybe fourteen years may not even be enough to know that you're a good investor. But on the access part, I think you could know probably within two, three years, within the investment period, whether someone is truly great.
00:19:39 · Brijesh Jeevarathnam, David Weisburd
[00:19:39] S0: I agree with that second... With both the points you made. And that's one of the, as I said, the kind of early litmus test of is this venture firm moving in the right circles, I. E. Seeing the best deals and then winning. One of the challenges of that is in the very early stage, seed series A, these companies, it becomes a bit... It takes a while for them to truly become winner circle companies, quote unquote. And so just to even know if seed investment X made, let's say this year is a good one and they're the best founders in the category, it's going to take two, three years, right? So in the seed and early stage, this is still a challenge, I. The long feedback loop, but I fully agree with your point. There's many interim markers of, is this investment in FundX a good one or not? [00:20:41] S1: So I want to go back to this concept of the founder whisperer. How do you know early on whether a venture capitalist is a founder whisperer?
00:20:41 · David Weisburd, Brijesh Jeevarathnam
[00:20:41] S1: So I want to go back to this concept of the founder whisperer. How do you know early on whether a venture capitalist is a founder whisperer? [00:20:53] S0: That goes back to my point about tapping on network for references and speaking to a lot of participants in the market. We like reference lists. We love off the list references. And we have a big enough network now where we can talk to people, founders that is, and get a sense of venture firms' relevance and attractiveness to founders. A canonical example that people talk about might be Elad Gil. I mentioned him only because he wrote the Growth Handbook and he's very revered as a mentor and a company builder alongside the founder of the company. There are greatness like that, where these folks, they may not be the domain expert in said company's domain, but they have enough founder trust and confidence in company building chops from before to still end up early on the cap table. I really think it comes down to a resonance with the founders' worldview and empathy for what they're doing. It's hard to kind of say what kind of person, what archetype is best suited for that. What I mean is there are career VCs who are good at this, there are former operators who are good at this. And I think it comes down to a personality type and really making the effort to build the trusted relationships with the founder community.
00:22:40 · David Weisburd
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00:23:52 · Brijesh Jeevarathnam
[00:23:52] S0: Ten, Suddenly twenty years ago, there were all kinds of great VCs with, I'll call it idiosyncratic backgrounds. And once again, the examples might be, I'll pick Mike again, Moritz, who was a journalist or people that were more in a sales function in their prior role, not exactly like deep technologists who came in and became great VCs. And now I think it's not true that there's one speck, but I do think what's happening is in this moment in time, the technical chops of a venture investor get put to the test very quickly. The founders these days, and I'm generalizing, tend to be very young, often very technical. If And you don't speak their language, it's hard to kind of build a connection than to build conviction and then to win the founder over. So maybe the prototypes of what makes a great VC has shrunk a little bit. There are still many different kinds of former careers that translate to VC investing. But I would say it's maybe a little bit less heterogeneous than it was fifteen, twenty years ago for the reason I just said.
00:25:14 · David Weisburd
[00:25:14] S1: The other thing that's maybe a little bit paradoxical is this concept of the right to win. So a lot of people look for this canonical right to win. But, of course, when you're a founder and you're looking to fill your cap table, you're looking to fill different needs on a cap table. So you might want somebody with brands, somebody with a lot of capital, and maybe you want somebody that could help recruit these types of engineers. How much does right to win matter in the context of a startup? And is there such a thing as the correct right to win, or is it as diverse as there are types of founders and types of industries?