00:47:26 · Parag Agrawal, Molly O'Shea
[00:47:26] S2: We don't do AE or GEO, but I think your website will become consumable by agents with us. But I do think like we, for example, even think of our onboarding and our documentation and every part of the developer or customer journey with the primary assumption that it's a human with a coding agent or a developer with a coding agent rather than a developer. And so you'll see a bunch of on our website, you'll see like, put this prompt into your agent and then it'll exactly know how to use parallel to solve whatever problem you're trying to solve. Like one claim, like you just need the human needs to just authorise slash add a credit card slash accept terms and the rest of it, the agent can rip. So really rethinking how you design every experience to be agent first is, I think, pretty fundamental. Vercel, like I know, is very agent built. So people who live that world have an advantage. [00:48:33] S1: We have probably ten or fifteen minutes left, but I'm curious, I mean, you're doing a lot of press, like you're out there, you're used to getting asked a bunch of questions. Like, what are the questions you want to get asked?
00:48:46 · Parag Agrawal
[00:48:46] S2: I spend a fair amount of time thinking about today, proactive agents and always on agents, how that changes the compute world and how that changes the web. So the question I think there to me is, and we've now built a bunch of systems which some people are starting to use around this notion of a proactive web. Or I've been out there saying the web will go from pull to push. So far, as humans, our primary way of searching the web was just us going and searching on Google. For the rare few, you use Google alerts. Frankly, they work. People tried to build like Google Now and a bunch of these things which would send you notifications. Nothing really worked on the web in terms of being proactive. I think with agents and the cost of intelligence going down, it is going to work. And so, now if you imagine an instant or news, implicitly understanding your world and your life, and being able to set up essentially really really high signal, high precision, high recall, alerts on everything that changes on the entire web to know when your agent needs to act on something on your behalf. So, something changes in the world or something might be happening. What do you need to do as a result? Or does that change your plans? Or does that change your actions? How we allocate compute in that world is a problem I'm currently obsessed with Because the web is really large. Right? Like there's a trillion pages out there. A bunch of them are changes changing every day. Most of it is junk. No matter how cheap you make compute, we have not enough compute to compute everything. So now we need to be really smart at prioritizing our compute over everything that is changing on the web. So that more compute can be spent on things which are actually actionable rather than junk changes. The rate of change of the web is also going to dramatically increase. You are starting to see that like people are publishing with agents. You can like the EUSEO businesses like churning out agent generated content on the web, which just means the rate of change on the web is increasing, which means the job of a search engine is to pull the signal from the noise as potentially more noise gets created.
00:51:34 · Molly O'Shea, Parag Agrawal
[00:51:34] S1: How do you think about data centers in space? [00:51:38] S2: I wish I knew more about it. I hope they work. [00:51:43] S1: Have you gone down any of these rabbit holes in this compute? [00:51:47] S2: I haven't. I haven't gone down the data centers in space rabbit hole. I do think we need compute. Yeah. I've gone down a little bit of the how sovereigns will participate in the data center. That is fascinating to me about how that will play out. [00:52:06] S1: Well, one of our partners is Brex and they're all about performance and spending smarter moving faster. I take this topic in the personal way. So I do think performance is a matter of who you spend your time around. Some people say it's your closest five people. Some people think it's like your mentor, people who inspire you. For your career, tremendous career, very interesting. I'm so curious, who is that person or those people for you?
00:52:06 · Molly O'Shea, Parag Agrawal
[00:52:06] S1: Well, one of our partners is Brex and they're all about performance and spending smarter moving faster. I take this topic in the personal way. So I do think performance is a matter of who you spend your time around. Some people say it's your closest five people. Some people think it's like your mentor, people who inspire you. For your career, tremendous career, very interesting. I'm so curious, who is that person or those people for you? [00:52:34] S2: My wife is, her name is Vinita. I was an engineer at Twitter when we got to know each other. So if you think of the part of my career where I've done well that people know about, It's mostly her. She is a superwoman. She is hyper ambitious. And I was ambitious, but I think she has driven my ambition even higher. Like, I have always aspired to be the top X in the world at anything I do. That's the only way. I was driven to do that for math, I was driven to do that for physics, I was driven to do that for computer science research. And I think I got there for all of those. But I don't think I would have thought I was capable of this until she pushed me. And then I was like, yeah, I think if you care enough about something, I think you can go become top 10 in the world at anything. Now the top one is a whole different field. But I think, for me, it's like the standard setter is my wife. She is a physician. She practices still. She is an investor at Andreessen Horowitz. She's done a startup. She does healthcare. She does biotech. She works really hard and is an amazing mom and wife.
00:52:34 · Parag Agrawal, Molly O'Shea
[00:52:34] S2: My wife is, her name is Vinita. I was an engineer at Twitter when we got to know each other. So if you think of the part of my career where I've done well that people know about, It's mostly her. She is a superwoman. She is hyper ambitious. And I was ambitious, but I think she has driven my ambition even higher. Like, I have always aspired to be the top X in the world at anything I do. That's the only way. I was driven to do that for math, I was driven to do that for physics, I was driven to do that for computer science research. And I think I got there for all of those. But I don't think I would have thought I was capable of this until she pushed me. And then I was like, yeah, I think if you care enough about something, I think you can go become top 10 in the world at anything. Now the top one is a whole different field. But I think, for me, it's like the standard setter is my wife. She is a physician. She practices still. She is an investor at Andreessen Horowitz. She's done a startup. She does healthcare. She does biotech. She works really hard and is an amazing mom and wife. [00:54:23] S1: That's amazing. So you guys have a nice little competitive dynamic. [00:54:26] S2: Yes. Yes. Yes. I think I am privileged that when I go to a lot of things, like people use me to access her. [00:54:35] S1: Really? [00:54:36] S2: Oh, all the time. Like, people will come to me to figure out how to get me to forward an email to her.
00:54:36 · Parag Agrawal, Molly O'Shea
[00:54:36] S2: Oh, all the time. Like, people will come to me to figure out how to get me to forward an email to her. [00:54:42] S1: Oh my gosh. That's amazing. Well, that's a really great call out. I wasn't expecting that. Why do you think partner selection or who you choose as a partner is so important?