00:54:05 · Mati Staniszewski
[00:54:05] S0: So maybe, you know, I can start in the kind of opposite way on the on the voice side first. Like, I could imagine the whole interface very... Being very different where you you kind of... Same way you would imagine Alexa or Siri delivering you the knowledge or some version of of Jarvis where, like, you wake up, you want to learn what happens on the social media and and it kind of summarizes things that are interesting to you and you can ask questions, go deeper. Like, for me that would be, like, part one where social media comes with, like, embedded assistant that kind of keeps you up to date on what's happening and you can engage with that, where where I could, like, oh, leave a comment here or hey, engage with this part or respond to this person. And you could you could, like, imagine both responses, being text or voice directly. So that that would be, like, a first... Like, a very shift into, like, the static timeline view into more of, like, interactive companion view. So that would be one component of this. Two... Yeah. I'm I'm kind of... I'm hesitating because I'm thinking, like, how would I incentivize the people? And that's the tricky part, but, like, I do think there, you know, if you record a video message from you, like that's great, second to that you record audio message, image, then text, so if you could have voice as part of that, it would be great. Simple version of that on social media could be, like, you know, you write a you write a post or you write an essay, and I can listen to that in your voice and and and enjoy it. But that's that kind of part of how can I leave the messages and comment across would be another another big one? Free, which is both on language level but on the voice level. Making it straight international, translated, and and and and and enjoyed across languages would be would be another one. But look, think it's a very tricky tricky one in terms of, like, the incentive side, like, how do you shift that? Know you're probably more familiar given given given your work of, like, tokenized based or or, like, incentive... Monetary incentive based approaches. I'm not... I... It's like... I I can see this working, but I'm not a big fan. I don't like this, like, kind of transactional approach, like, should not be that.
00:56:14 · Mati Staniszewski, Nikhil Kamath
Ideally, you're, like, engaged because you're interested rather than because you you think it can give you, like, the monetary award. Like, it should be a secondary versus primary effect. I think, you know, like, that that what what Sean to be working... I I think the verification side, I would keep the verification side. I think it's valuable for people to know that the the other side is is a real person. Mhmm. And then over time, there'll be a a question of how you verify for for human part. I think that's going to be another big topic, but I would I would have that. If I was creating social media, I would bring that as a big part of the equation. I'm still thinking about the incentive part. How how would I incentivize the positivity versus the negativity? And that's that's that's, you know, like, almost the world got... At at some places, calibrated this way where negativity gets more attention. Yeah. And, like, how do you shift that? Is it... [00:57:09] S1: It doesn't even have be positivity. It could be neutrality. [00:57:13] S0: Positivity? Like, you know, like like... But then... Like, if [00:57:18] S1: you're gonna trigger a emotion, like, the emotion could be greed, the emotion could be to pontificate. By being here, you sound smarter. This is a bunch of people who are trying to feed curiosity. There's a bunch of thing... Other emotions that you can play with which are more on the right if the curve is left being negativity and right being positivity. You're more towards the right.
00:57:18 · Nikhil Kamath, Mati Staniszewski
[00:57:18] S1: you're gonna trigger a emotion, like, the emotion could be greed, the emotion could be to pontificate. By being here, you sound smarter. This is a bunch of people who are trying to feed curiosity. There's a bunch of thing... Other emotions that you can play with which are more on the right if the curve is left being negativity and right being positivity. You're more towards the right. [00:57:44] S0: No. I agree. I... It's it's, you know, like, I think the the the key thing is you want to avoid them... The kind of the algorithm just rewarding what gives the the highest knee jerk reaction. Correct. And and it's like... It's like if you could have a platform that, like, inspires curiosity and and, like, learning or, like, different points of view in a way that doesn't lead to just, like, two sides screaming at each other. Incredible. Yeah. I mean... [00:58:11] S1: Maybe we can work on this together. You can take care of the voice part [00:58:14] S0: of it. Let's do it. Yeah. It's... I feel like it's like... The... It's... You know, there's no yet... There's no product in the space. Yeah. On the consumer side that has, like, AI enabled in the right way. So... And it's like there's no AI social product today. [00:58:28] S1: Maybe we'll catch up in London or we'll do a con call. I'll add my team, and we can ideate their some ideas as well. [00:58:35] S0: Or in India. [00:58:36] S1: Yeah. Yeah. You're coming in February. Right? [00:58:38] S0: Exactly. I'm just... 100%. [00:58:40] S1: Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much, Mati, for doing this. I think we're out of time.
00:58:40 · Nikhil Kamath, Mati Staniszewski
[00:58:40] S1: Yeah. Okay. Thank you so much, Mati, for doing this. I think we're out of time. [00:58:43] S0: Thank you. Thank you so much. [00:58:45] S1: We'll catch up soon. [00:58:46] S0: Let's catch up soon and let's... Thanks. It's amazing to see how you support the ecosystem. So hopefully hopefully we can do that too, and and and thanks so much. Thank you. [00:59:03] S1: How long are you there for? [00:59:04] S0: For a week. [00:59:05] S1: Yeah. Do you have time? [00:59:06] S0: Yeah. To travel? Yeah. I am I'm gonna be between Bangalore and Mumbai mostly, but happy to go away. [00:59:11] S1: I'll take you to Goa for a day or two if [00:59:12] S0: you have time. What's in... What's... What is that... Do you have offices in Goa? [00:59:16] S1: No. I have a house in Goa, [00:59:17] S0: which is [00:59:18] S1: a lot of fun, and have dogs in Goa. It's a... It's like a beach town, which is very relaxing. [00:59:26] S0: Amazing. Yeah. Big planet. [00:59:29] S1: Thank you. If are in [00:59:30] S0: London, let me know. I'll take you to... I don't have dogs, but I can... I'll it... Well, I'll take you to a cool place. Cool.