Dream Machines: Physical AI, Robotics, Being Human
01:11:38 · Aravind Kandiah, Evan Helda, Charles Wong
[01:11:38] S0: Yeah. We're going live in a month. [01:11:41] S1: Well, I think we should do a round two then after this thing is live, and maybe we'll do a live a live demo actually really cool if you guys are open to it. [01:11:48] S0: Yeah. That'll be cool. [01:11:49] S2: Yeah. Let's light that up. [01:11:51] S0: Yeah. But I think... We see the same as a gun. It's a whole bunch of eval platforms, but I think it doesn't solve the... One of the the main problems. But we will talk more about that maybe some other time. [01:12:01] S1: Okay. Yeah. Let's let's leave a little bit on the bone. Leave people wanting more. So final question. This is a great conversation, so I appreciate it. Excited to get this one out there. This is more of a philosophical question, and I'm on a holy mission to collect really good questions. And so I'm seeking not an answer, but a question here. And the question I'm seeking is, you know, as humanity faces this exponential takeoff, this this crazy era of change we're heading into, What do you think is the most important question that we should be asking ourselves to best prepare and and thrive in that future? And that that could be as individuals, as a society, either one. I'd love a I'd love a question from each of you if if you have one. [01:12:53] S0: I can go first. Sure. I'll have Charles if [01:12:56] S2: you Go ahead. I was just about to start, but you go ahead. Go ahead.
01:12:58 · Aravind Kandiah
[01:12:58] S0: Yeah. As if... So I think my answer may not be what you want to hear? But for me, dude, life's not that deep, man. It's like... First, like, do things you enjoy with, like, the people you enjoy with... Like, you enjoy their company with. I think, like, every technological revolution always scares people. Was it, like, agriculture? We have, like, that whole migration of workforce there, whether it was, like, computers. I think over time, it just frees us up to just do more things. But even now, like, all these AI agents coming out, people have become more busy managing the agents, which is crazy because the expectations of productivity have gone... Gotten higher. It's like, oh, last time your throughput was x, but with this AI agent, it needs to be 10 x. So therefore, you need to be more busy. So it's like, I need to go learn these additional tools as well. It was like, I think there will always be an evolution of what work means, but I think the constant throughout it all is just like, hey. Are you enjoying enjoying your time on this planet? Are you, like, you know, contributing to the relationships that you're building? Are you having fun doing it? Are you, like, giving back to your community? I think these are, the the base things that don't really change throughout time. It's, like, your tribe, your people, your relationships, and, like, how you experience life. So for me, it's like, don't I wanna go down the the route of becoming a a philosopher. The most of them are depressed. They think too much, and they ask too much deep questions. So for me, it's like, try to keep it simple. I
01:14:33 · Evan Helda
[01:14:33] S1: love that. I love that.
01:14:35 · Charles Wong
[01:14:35] S2: Yeah. Yeah. No. My mind didn't didn't stray too far from yours, I think. But it's less of a... My mind... I was struggling to get to a question to be asked and more of a a personal tenet that I would probably hold to myself, which is like, you know this is this is less of a if robotics, you know, takes over the world kind of quest... Question, but more like stuff that I've personally reflected on and come to a conclusion on myself. Having been a founder for a while, having been so immersed in the world of technology, there's there's so much going on all the time. The noise is insane. The signal is insane everywhere. Right? And, like, you know, even in our course... In the course of our work, we work with... And we work with NASA. We work with the government. We work with robotics companies. These are all high impact big deals. Right? And I realized, you know, at the end of the workday, after, you know, day of like energizing conversation, you know, lots of great technical work, all these things, where I come back to, what do I care about truly is my community. Right? Like, think the 99.99999% of human brains were not designed to think about the world as a whole and shoulder its burdens there. Right? Crushing. Right? And, you know, even reflecting on myself as a younger founder, trying to contend with that and somehow function was was a lot. Right? Ultimately, at the end of the day, what I came back and cared about, not too different from Aravind's reflection, is just my community. Right? My loved ones, my family, my friends. Right? And if, you know, it doesn't matter if you're a founder or, know, you know, doesn't even matter if you're in tech, you're just, you know, you're just doing other stuff, regular human stuff. Community is everything. Right? And whatever you can do to drive impact, you know, the love in your community, that's what matters, I feel.
01:16:35 · Aravind Kandiah, Evan Helda
[01:16:35] S0: Yeah. And end of the day, this is just... They're all playing this video game. Right? And it's the quest you give yourself. Right? No one is giving you the quest. Like, up to you to give yourself what quest you wanna play as well. So I think it's up to everyone to choose their own adventure as well. [01:16:50] S1: What quest and what tribe, and how are you cultivating that tribe, aka community, I think is a good compression of of both your questions. Wow. That was awesome. I love I love both those answers. I'm excited to to share this one with the world, guys. There's nothing to do around two, so we can actually maybe show off the product. It's very it's very visual, inherently visual experience. Right? Indeed. And, yeah, appreciate your time and look forward to the next one. [01:17:16] S0: Likewise. Awesome. Cool. Alrighty. [01:17:19] S1: Thanks for listening to Dream Machines. If you enjoyed this episode, please consider sharing with a friend. And if you happen to have a few seconds, leave us a rating on your favorite podcast player. It's super appreciated and really helps us grow and spread the good word. Oh, don't forget to check out our newsletter over at dreammachines.ai, where you'll find essays and deep dives on companies, founders, and big ideas in this domain. Thanks again for the time. See you on the front lines.