Markets with Madison
00:27:55 · Jamie Beaton, Madison
[00:27:55] S1: Yeah, it's a great question. So I would say a couple of things. There's three shocks so far. One is Trump saying he might ban Chinese students. The second is saying he might ban all international students from Harvard. And the third is freezing visa interviews. So first of all, for... Let's take the Chinese students. He recently announced that actually all Chinese students are open to come to America, and that was part of the trade tussle with Xi Jinping. So I think that was a classic Trump strategy where he initially announced this sort of scary thing to put pressure on China, but then walked it back entirely. Similarly for Harvard, they've won two lawsuits now to keep their right for international students, and so I think they will be able to take students all fine. We're of course helping kids this year who are sort of nervously waiting to begin this class, but I think that should also be okay. Then finally, there's the visa interviews. Unfortunately, this year's Kiwis largely have their visa interviews already scheduled at the embassy, so they should be able to get their student visas. But if that stuck around for a while, that could be a bit spicy. But on the whole, seems like it's de escalating quite a bit. [00:28:48] S0: You're an international student at these institutions. How would your life be different if you didn't get to have that experience? [00:28:56] S1: Yeah, I mean, well, selfishly, I've already knocked out a lot [00:28:59] S0: of my studies,
00:28:59 · Madison, Jamie Beaton
[00:28:59] S0: of my studies, [00:29:00] S1: think I'd be all right. But, you know, it would be sad. And I think about actually what I would feel like if I was 17 or 18 holding my Harvard offer back when I was in New Zealand and this whole wide world of America and, you know, entrepreneurship and everything was closed and, you know, what that would be like because I would have spent at that point four or five years training to get into Harvard like many of our students do. So it would be absolutely gut wrenching. And so we're, of course, working very hard through all the channels we can to make sure our students can, of course, enroll on campus. And, my general advice for an ambitious high schooler is don't blink, you know, keep preparing. And, you know, by the time you apply, it should be nicely settled down. [00:29:34] S0: Jamie's taking even more bets on himself. He's enrolled at Columbia to study journalism here and is currently studying healthcare policy at Cornell. So that's Okay, just casually.
00:29:34 · Madison, Jamie Beaton
[00:29:34] S0: Jamie's taking even more bets on himself. He's enrolled at Columbia to study journalism here and is currently studying healthcare policy at Cornell. So that's Okay, just casually. [00:29:44] S1: That's a new and exciting one for me, learning a bit more about different health systems around the world. That's... Why? Why healthcare? Well, guess I'm really interested in healthcare because I guess if you think about, for example, New Zealand, you know, two of the biggest expense items for the country is education and health. And for a long time, we've actually had a pretty good healthcare system in New Zealand, but it's struggling recently with long wait times, you know, inflated costs. So it's actually really interesting learning about other models, for example, in places like Switzerland or, you know, even some of the challenges in privatisation in North America. So yeah, really fun intellectual adventure. [00:30:15] S0: I think I know you well enough, Jamie, to guess that you're probably gonna start like a healthcare academy, or privatised healthcare business off the back of that, [00:30:23] S1: not The TEN guys are doing well right now, but we have got some amazing health work experience programmes for our students, where, you know, kids can, for example, hop into, online medical experiences and learn what it's like. So there's a bit of a Crimson link, of course. [00:30:36] S0: I look forward to seeing it. Hey, thank you so much for having us, I really appreciate your time. [00:30:39] S1: Cheers, you too.