Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
01:11:29 · Oji Udezue, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:11:29] S0: Well, for someone who uses it a lot. No, I think, you know, pros and cons. I'm not... I'm no longer paid by Microsoft, so I have things I don't like, but there are also things that, you know, the Mac isn't perfect either. [01:11:42] S1: Yeah. Indeed. What is a favorite life motto that you repeat to yourself or share with other people, either in work or in life, that you find valuable? [01:11:52] S0: I've taken to saying that there's more knowledge outside my head than inside it. And this is a plea for curiosity. I have three main things that that are my North Star personally, but also, obviously, when I say personally, mean everything, including professionally, which is originality, curiosity, and wisdom. And so this thing about there's more knowledge outside my head than inside my head is a plea for curiosity. It's a plea for skepticism. It's a plea to be humble about what you know no matter how old you are about the world around you and always be listening for more. Even when you know something, let other people speak because they might add 10% more to the 90% you know. And so being an active listener is very important. [01:12:48] S1: Beautiful. Last question. You are from Nigeria. What is a Nigerian food that you think people need to find and get ASAP? [01:12:57] S0: I will recommend two, depending on how familiar you are. So if you've never had fried plantain with beef stew [01:13:06] S1: Oh, man. That sounds great.
01:13:06 · Lenny Rachitsky, Oji Udezue
[01:13:06] S1: Oh, man. That sounds great. [01:13:08] S0: Then you should stop what you're doing. Stop work. Whatever you're doing, find your next Nigerian friend and go get some. Okay? This is the food that most Nigerians would basically trade years of life to have access to. Okay? So that's what I would say. And then the the second thing is, if you really wanna go, you know, if you wanna be in the in club in Nigeria, as we call it, you gotta try pepper soup. Pepper soup. Now if you're not into spicy stuff, I'm sorry. The door is close to you. But pepper soup is really in, and it is amazing. It'll make you sweat when it's delicious, and you should give it a shot. [01:14:04] S1: Oji, I think we've solved many people's sharp problems. I really appreciate you making time being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online they wanna reach out? And how can listeners be useful to you?
01:14:04 · Lenny Rachitsky, Oji Udezue
[01:14:04] S1: Oji, I think we've solved many people's sharp problems. I really appreciate you making time being here. Two final questions. Where can folks find you online they wanna reach out? And how can listeners be useful to you? [01:14:16] S0: I publish on Substack when I have time. You should check it out. It's usually all about things that are beneath the surface, what's behind the thing. I believe that's how you'll find it. I'm on Twitter as well, so you can follow me because I will talk about products. How you can be useful to me is go follow me on Twitter, sign up for updates on the book. If you do, I will draw from that audience to help name the book, to help design the cover for the book. The book is intended to have a freemium because I want this book to be available to people in Africa and India across the world. So there'll be a free version of it. And there'll be premium versions with more tools, more, help, and maybe even, like, interviews with luminaries that you care and love as well. And so that... Hopefully, that will fund the free side of it as well. So come in, become part of the party, maybe join a preread, an early early draft read. That is the best way you can help. So it's a call to all PMs and people of, goodwill. [01:15:29] S1: Amazing. What a great answer to that question. I'm gonna go get some Pepe soup and some plantain beef meals. Thank you so much for being here, and, I'm gonna go get some food. [01:15:41] S0: Alright. Thank you, Lenny. It was super enjoyable, and love hanging out, and, godspeed.
01:15:41 · Oji Udezue, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:15:41] S0: Alright. Thank you, Lenny. It was super enjoyable, and love hanging out, and, godspeed. [01:15:48] S1: Bye, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. If you found this valuable, you can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Also, please consider giving us a rating or leaving a review as that really helps other listeners find the podcast. You can find all past episodes or learn more about the show at lenny'spodcast.com. See you in the next episode.