Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
01:18:55 · Lenny Rachitsky, Keith Rabois
[01:18:55] S1: Where do you find this? Is that one of the streaming services? [01:18:58] S0: It's either on Netflix or iTunes or both. [01:19:00] S1: Sweet. Okay. Is there a product that you've recently discovered that you really love? [01:19:06] S0: Rarely. I do find products that I'm addicted to. I'm on this crusade about Eight Sleep, which is another one of my conventions is you must sleep eight hours a day, you must prioritize sleep even when you're very busy. I am an investor and so I'm somewhat biased in Eight Sleep, but it transforms people's lives. So I'm still addicted to that one. I don't know if there's a new product that I've been fanatically addicted to recently. [01:19:34] S1: Eight Sleep counts. Do you have a life motto that you find yourself coming back to in work or in life? [01:19:40] S0: No days off, #NoDaysOff. I don't believe in taking days off for workout. I don't believe taking days off from work, period. Derivation for those who are interested is when Bill Belichick won the Super Bowl for whatever billionth time with the Patriots. As back to back Super Bowl wins, I think he started the championship celebration parade with this chant of, "No days off." So that's kind of my mantra. And [01:20:06] S1: When you say, "No days off," are you saying, "Work every day, work the weekend," sort of thing, or what do you ...
01:20:06 · Lenny Rachitsky, Keith Rabois
[01:20:06] S1: When you say, "No days off," are you saying, "Work every day, work the weekend," sort of thing, or what do you ... [01:20:12] S0: That too. So let's talk about the workout side. I believe I've missed seven days and seven years of working out. And it still kills me. Half of those I still am annoyed that I missed. If I really, really had reoriented my schedule, I should have been able to hit at least four of those. And I measure it and I post it at the end of every year. Last year I missed none, so I was very happy, but I don't believe in excuses basically. No days off is a proxy for I don't believe in excuses. [01:20:38] S1: And do you work out every day? Is that the role? [01:20:41] S0: I mean, literally there's only seven days in the last seven years I haven't worked out. [01:20:45] S1: Okay. I see. [01:20:45] S0: That includes all kinds of illness, sickness, travel, international, time zone, travel- [01:20:50] S1: So it's actual okay. [01:20:50] S0: ... weddings. There's no excuses. [01:20:53] S1: Actually every day. All right. And then- [01:20:56] S0: Typically more than once a day. [01:20:57] S1: And you've told me before we start recording, you had a Barry's class this morning. You have another one later today. [01:21:02] S0: I do. And a lift. [01:21:04] S1: Okay. Final question. So you were famously part of the PayPal Mafia. I'm curious if there was someone there that's over-performed, someone that you worked with that you never thought would be that good.
01:21:04 · Lenny Rachitsky, Keith Rabois
[01:21:04] S1: Okay. Final question. So you were famously part of the PayPal Mafia. I'm curious if there was someone there that's over-performed, someone that you worked with that you never thought would be that good. [01:21:16] S0: Honestly, no. I lot up investing in most of the derivative companies and stuff. And so I think I had a good spidey sense of which people had at least founder level ambition and could potentially build something. Sorry, I wish I could give you a better answer. [01:21:38] S1: They would've been mad at you anyway, so this is the safer answer. [01:21:40] S0: Well, it depends. If they've been super successful, they might not care. [01:21:43] S1: That's true. [01:21:45] S0: Peter Thiel on that. Just kidding. [01:21:46] S1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Elon Musk. Keith, thank you so much for doing this. I learned so much. This is going to help a lot of founders, a lot of people building stuff. Two final questions, where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and how can listeners be useful to you? [01:21:59] S0: Yeah, so X.com. I tweet prolifically. You mentioned my pinned tweet, so that's probably the easiest way. [01:22:07] S1: Sweet. Keith, thank you so much for being here. [01:22:10] S0: Pleasure to be with you. Thanks for the invitation.
01:22:10 · Keith Rabois, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:22:10] S0: Pleasure to be with you. Thanks for the invitation. [01:22:13] S1: Thanks for accepting it. Bye, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. If you found this valuable, you can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Also, please consider giving us a rating or leaving a review as that really helps other listeners find the podcast. You can find all past episodes or learn more about the show at lennyspodcast.com. See you in the next episode.