02:45:48 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[02:45:48] S0: That's great. Hunter's in the chat by the way. He says hello. [02:45:52] S1: That's great. [02:45:53] S0: The another question I have is we've been thinking about AI generated images, video, etcetera is getting so good. If it stays at this pace, you're going to be able to generate characters consistently. You're you're already seeing this on Instagram, people just creating entire personalities for influencers in different verticals. Do you have any type of strong thesis around how how that will play out if we're gonna have sort of organic influencers, regular humans and then you know these synthetic [02:46:27] S1: Pros and cons. [02:46:28] S0: I've been thinking about in the context of you know an example is like, I don't want the AI Andrew Huberman. I want Andrew Huberman to get health advice from because I know Andrew and I trust that he's making the best decisions and and studying you know and making you know these recommendations and and understands the weight of that and you you have like a synthetic Andrew Huberman in five years. Doesn't care if he could convinces a million people to do something dumb with their health because he can just shut the account down and turn a new one on. But I'm curious how you think.
02:47:02 · Casey Neistat
[02:47:02] S6: Yeah. Okay. My cynical take on it which is which I believe is accurate. I'd wager that this is accurate, is that it's a tidal wave that none of us will will be able to to overcome. We can hold our breath for a while. It is a tidal wave. And I wish I had a better analogy, but it's a little bit like, you know, when Toy Story came out in 1999. It was the first computer animated feature film, and it was great. I loved it. But then five, six years later, there was just this, you know, onslaught of computer animated films, and I was like, you know what? The hand drawn stuff is better. I missed that. When CGI first started getting introduced into films, I was like, no. Practical is better. I like practical better. That's gonna be the thing. And it's like, no. You're gonna lose. And I think AI is probably the most existential version of that. I think that it's just going to be so good that it's going to become irrelevant. And old people like us might appreciate, you know, real human things, and we might keep it alive. But the generation behind us, my children, when they see draw hand drawn animation, they're like, what is this? They don't care. It means nothing to them. So I think it's just going to get so good that it really doesn't matter, and that that tidal wave is going to consume everything. And I think that we're we're it's the progress that we've seen over the last couple years of how good it is and how quickly it's developing is incredible. But when you look at the capabilities of, you know, the latest rock and the latest GPT, you look at how smart these things are. You look at what the sort of conversations you can have with with any of these agents, and then you look at how good the images that can be spit out by, you know, Google's video or or whichever whichever AI you you might be fond of. It's like they're just gonna marry really, really quickly. And I think five or six years from now, we're gonna start to see real sort of erosion in the space because what they're delivering is gonna be so good. You know, like, another example is, like, we haven't had a number one song yet that's completely AI generated, but it's gonna come out of nowhere. It's gonna be, like, Gangnam style, which, like, the novelty of it allows us to dismiss the lack of humanity that this song has.
02:49:12 · Casey Neistat, John Coogan
The first AI song that's gonna be a number one hit is not going to be a Bob Dylan esque song that comes from the soul. It's gonna be something fun and outrageous, and we're gonna forgive that AI made it. And then slowly, it's gonna start to chip away. But I think it is a losing battle, and the optimistic take on that is I think that there is going to be an extreme premium, but on the humans that are able to sustain because of of what they represent uniquely. You know, maybe another bad analogy is it's like, I love Marvel movies. They're fucking fantastic. But as far as cinema goes, like, you know, there's an argument that said it's like, those kind of artistry that we saw in the the seventies or eighties, like the the apex of cinema where it comes from one when you think of a Tarantino movie, you think of, you know, a truly great filmmaker with a voice. Yeah. Marvel movies are something else. [02:50:03] S1: Yeah.
02:50:03 · John Coogan, Casey Neistat, Jordi Hays
[02:50:03] S1: Yeah. [02:50:03] S6: But they're fucking great, and we love them. We all show up to see them, and we're okay with that. And I think that's going to happen with AI, but it's gonna happen at a rate of acceleration that we've never encountered before. And it's gonna be so good that we're willing to forgive it, and I think it's gonna leave a handful of people out there. Maybe Andrew Huberman will be one of them. I hope so. I'm a fan of his as well. But it will put an extreme premium on the sort of human voices that are distinctly human, that distinctly represents something that AI could never. When you look at the landscape of media, a lot of that shit could be replaced by AI. [02:50:38] S1: So the power law gets steeper. [02:50:41] S6: Yeah. Absolutely. [02:50:42] S1: Makes sense. [02:50:43] S6: Well That's like a five hour conversation, by [02:50:45] S1: the way. Well, we'll have you [02:50:47] S0: back on again soon. [02:50:48] S1: This was Please. Is awesome. [02:50:49] S0: And congrats on your new your new fake but very real role at ModRetro. [02:50:54] S6: So I appreciate it. Thanks for the time, guys. [02:50:57] S0: Yeah. Have fun in Massachusetts. We'll talk soon. [02:50:59] S1: We'll talk soon. [02:51:00] S6: Appreciate it. Take care. [02:51:01] S1: Have a good one. Bye. [02:51:03] S0: Airhorn for Casey.
02:51:03 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Alex Hawkinson
[02:51:03] S0: Airhorn for Casey. [02:51:04] S1: Up next, we have Alex from BrightAI coming in the studio. But let me tell you about public investing for those who take it seriously. They got multi asset investing, industry leading yields, and they're trusted by millions, folks. Interesting. What else do we need to cover today? There are a bunch of posts we've been through but we have our next guest here in the studio. You will welcome him in. How you doing? Welcome. [02:51:30] S0: Hey, welcome. Alex. What's happening? [02:51:32] S1: Hey, guys. [02:51:33] S2: Thanks for having me on. [02:51:34] S1: Yeah. Thanks for hopping on. Give us an intro. Breakdown, who you are, what you do for everyone who's listening. [02:51:41] S2: Yeah. So I'm CEO and founder of BrightAI. We build physical AI solutions for all the sort of essential services that society can't live without. So things like, energy grid, you know, power supply, water infrastructure, HVAC, pest control, and all those things. So we have a platform that lets you kind of real time observe this distributed physical infrastructure in the world and, solves a bunch of the problems that people have in those industries in terms of, like, labor shortages Yeah. You know, breakdown in the aging infrastructure, sustainability challenges, all those things. [02:52:14] S1: Is the customer more government focused or private companies? [02:52:18] S2: They're private companies now. It sort of touches, touches everything, you know, these these services. I've, obviously, every con everybody alive is a consumer of these things.
02:52:18 · Alex Hawkinson, John Coogan
[02:52:18] S2: They're private companies now. It sort of touches, touches everything, you know, these these services. I've, obviously, every con everybody alive is a consumer of these things. [02:52:28] S1: Yeah. [02:52:29] S2: You know? And as a result of that, there's plenty of government involvement, but, they tend to be owned privately in The US. So big utility companies, service providers, you know, pest control operators, like all different sorts of companies. And then you've got this crossover interest with, you know, the national interest and so on as well. [02:52:48] S1: Where's the strain the worst right now across those different areas? Or, like, where are we seeing the most strain? What's the evidence of the strain?