02:40:57 · Jordi Hays, Casey Neistat, John Coogan
[02:40:57] S0: This might be a bee free zone. You know? [02:40:59] S6: There's I'm not gonna have any friends that wear b's. I don't have any friends anyways, but if you have a b, it just means, like, we can't hang out. Yeah. Yeah. Because it makes it makes me uncomfortable. And look. I think there's an argument. It's like, get over it. Like, you fucking Luddite. Like, this is the direction everything's headed, and you're being recorded all the time anyway. Sure. But in the interim, I do think, like, there is a there's a learning curve. I think that Meta's decision to put wearable glasses with a camera on them in Ray Bans, the most common sunglasses in the world, was brilliant because we're all familiar with this pair of sunglasses. Like Yep. There was no learning curve. There was no, like, what's that thing on your face? We know what it is. Mhmm. I think how emphatic they are about having the indicator light. There's no way you can turn it off. If you cover it, they don't record. There's some degree there at least [02:41:46] S0: there's That's important. Like my my question my question for the the wave founder in twenty minutes is, should your glasses be bright red and have like you know a circle in the middle of your head that's flashing that says I'm recording. [02:41:59] S1: Yeah. I mean if you [02:42:00] S0: So that people
02:42:00 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Casey Neistat
[02:42:00] S0: So that people [02:42:00] S1: can If someone shows up with a TV camera like I don't feel like, oh, this is in violation of my privacy. I'm like, I know exactly what's going on. The news is here. And if I step in front of that camera, I'm on the news. Like, it it it we have a social understanding of that. [02:42:13] S0: We still might not wanna be around it. [02:42:15] S1: Yeah. I'm like, actually, I'm gonna turn around and walk the other way because I don't wanna be seen on on this camera or whatever. I don't know. [02:42:20] S6: But there's there's an understanding there. Yeah. And look, on on Wave's website and the q and a, there's a question like, is there an indicator light? And their answer is, yeah, but you can turn it off. And so, like, I know, I don't know. I read that, it makes me a little bit queasy Yeah. As a guy who has a camera on him, you know, all the time and and so much of the the videos that I've made is about filming everyone in the whole world around me. Totally. I still think there's something honest about having that camera on your shoulder, pointing a camera at someone, versus, like, you know, the glass hole movement of the, you know, Google Glass, which, like, by having this on your face, everyone was uneasy around you. I think it's even a big hurdle to overcome as we eventually, like, figure out what this hardware AI future is going to look like.
02:42:20 · Casey Neistat, John Coogan, Micky Malka, Jordi Hays
[02:42:20] S6: But there's there's an understanding there. Yeah. And look, on on Wave's website and the q and a, there's a question like, is there an indicator light? And their answer is, yeah, but you can turn it off. And so, like, I know, I don't know. I read that, it makes me a little bit queasy Yeah. As a guy who has a camera on him, you know, all the time and and so much of the the videos that I've made is about filming everyone in the whole world around me. Totally. I still think there's something honest about having that camera on your shoulder, pointing a camera at someone, versus, like, you know, the glass hole movement of the, you know, Google Glass, which, like, by having this on your face, everyone was uneasy around you. I think it's even a big hurdle to overcome as we eventually, like, figure out what this hardware AI future is going to look like. [02:43:04] S1: Yeah. What do you think about, like, airplane demos? It feels like all there's so much tech where the demo is like, you'll love this on an airplane. The Apple Vision Pro is a great example. A lot of the a lot of the handheld [02:43:16] S8: But it [02:43:16] S0: devices doesn't work when it's dark? [02:43:18] S1: It's not too dark on planes. Okay. Does work very well on planes. But it's this like weird niche use case that feels like killer application and then you actually get out into most of your life is not spent on airplanes usually and so
02:43:18 · John Coogan, Casey Neistat, Micky Malka, Jordi Hays
[02:43:18] S1: It's not too dark on planes. Okay. Does work very well on planes. But it's this like weird niche use case that feels like killer application and then you actually get out into most of your life is not spent on airplanes usually and so [02:43:29] S6: Yeah. Look, if if that's the best you've got like, I travel more than most people I know, we're still talking about, you know, maybe double digits, maybe, maybe ten hours a month tops. [02:43:39] S8: Yeah. [02:43:40] S6: So, you know, 4,000 for a face computer that I use ten hours a month on an airplane, which by the way, it doesn't work for me on an airplane. Like, I didn't like it at all on an Okay. No. It will work. Like, it check on you perfectly. No. When you're on an airplane, you're surrounded by strangers. [02:43:55] S1: Yeah. Yeah. [02:43:57] S6: The idea that, like, I'm just gonna go like that and watch Avatar with all these people around me. You know, I don't fly Spirit that often, but I have a flown Spirit, and I know what goes on in those flights. Like, it it just again, like, just implication of yeah. The social implication of it, You you know, think if that's the best you've got, then maybe, you know, maybe you're not thinking holistically enough about your about your hardware. [02:44:20] S8: Yeah. [02:44:20] S0: How do you how do you spot talent? You you you discovered Sam. Someone in the chat was asking. [02:44:27] S6: It's a great question. [02:44:28] S0: Have a a framework for it.
02:44:28 · Jordi Hays, Casey Neistat
[02:44:28] S0: Have a a framework for it. [02:44:31] S6: It's a it's a it's a difficult question, but, you know, it's the same I I approach it the same way that I approach, investments. And it's seldom the work, and it's almost always the the individual. You know? Like, I I think Sam is brilliant, but he's brilliant at everything that he does. He's brilliant with the work that he at Humane. He's brilliant at the work that he did at The Verge before that. He's brilliant with his own YouTube channel. You know, I've I've got a a dear friend of mine, a kid named Hunter, who works in the building with me, but [02:44:59] S0: he's a a friend, and and we invest together. So [02:45:03] S6: Hunter's Hunter's fantastic, and, like, I don't know what Hunter does because every time I have a conversation with him, he's starting some new business or some new endeavor. Like, the work is almost irrelevant. It's the individual. And I think it's like, it's that mentality that you have or you don't have. Not everyone has it. I do think maybe you can get it if you don't have it. But when I see that in people, I I have a tendency to sort of gravitate towards those people. And when I look at the when I look around at the friends of mine that I have some sort of professional relationship with, a professional admiration for, they all have that thing, that that sort of desire to to see it through, whatever the it may be. So, you know, I I guess the short answer is like, it's always the person, never the never the product. [02:45:48] S0: That's great. Hunter's in the chat by the way. He says hello.
02:45:48 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[02:45:48] S0: That's great. Hunter's in the chat by the way. He says hello. [02:45:52] S1: That's great. [02:45:53] S0: The another question I have is we've been thinking about AI generated images, video, etcetera is getting so good. If it stays at this pace, you're going to be able to generate characters consistently. You're you're already seeing this on Instagram, people just creating entire personalities for influencers in different verticals. Do you have any type of strong thesis around how how that will play out if we're gonna have sort of organic influencers, regular humans and then you know these synthetic [02:46:27] S1: Pros and cons. [02:46:28] S0: I've been thinking about in the context of you know an example is like, I don't want the AI Andrew Huberman. I want Andrew Huberman to get health advice from because I know Andrew and I trust that he's making the best decisions and and studying you know and making you know these recommendations and and understands the weight of that and you you have like a synthetic Andrew Huberman in five years. Doesn't care if he could convinces a million people to do something dumb with their health because he can just shut the account down and turn a new one on. But I'm curious how you think.