BUILDERS
00:15:19 · Brett
[00:15:19] S0: How do you think about the future? Which I know it's hard to think about the future. The other day, I went on a a run with a friend who was in town, and I hadn't seen him since before November 2022 is when, obviously, like, ChatGPT really came out. Yeah. And we're just talking about, like, wow. Like, the world has changed dramatically. No one could have predicted this. So for you, let's make it difficult. Like, what's your prediction? Like, where do you see this world all heading? Like, what do you think the world looks like three years, four years, five years from now?
00:15:42 · Maximilian Freiermuth
[00:15:42] S1: Yeah. That's a excellent question. I'm a big optimist. So when people, like, are skeptical about technical change, you know, they always think, like, oh, this is gonna lead down a path or a lot of times, maybe not as much in SF, but in Europe where I'm originally from, it, like, definitely happens more often where, like, you a lot times see a lot of risks in technology. I try to, like, see more, like, the upside of it because historically, if you look back what technology has brought us, I mean, just look around the studio for example, like it is amazing. It has like brought like basically a brought a broad wave of wealth to everyone. I think this is also true for AI. However, I'm not gonna lie. Like, I think that's the first technology where I also see, like, the risks that are profound. But I think it's still it's still, like, inaccurate to, like, assume that there is something conscious going on in AI and that it might sort of, you know, turn, like, to something consciously malicious. It can turn to something malicious. I don't think it is it's conscious of, like, the way a lot of people think about, like, oh, the robot robot evolution is up to come. Like, I don't think that's that's that's true in that sense. But, yeah, the risks are real, I think it's important to think about it, and it's important to think about this even in a setting where you are in a capitalistic constraint where you need to, like, race against others and cannot afford to, like, slow down. I think there's a lot... Enough, you know, conversation about this, and I have trust that as a community, we'll come up, you know, with the with the best possible solution.
00:17:16 · Brett
[00:17:16] S0: One thing I just know to be true about you and Marco is that you don't do anything just for fun or or anything small. Like, you're very, very ambitious, and if you're gonna do something, there's a big plan there and a big vision. Talk to us about that that big vision when you guys talk about the future of the platform and what you're building. Like, what is that North Star?
00:17:32 · Maximilian Freiermuth
[00:17:32] S1: We said it before, like, we fall under agentic commerce, and agentic commerce is, like, minuscule right now. Right? It's it's small. Like, people expect that this holiday season will see, like, the first significant, you know, share in terms of search that comes from agents. So agents find, like, products, but then people still, like, execute the the purchase on, like, Amazon, for example. By the way, Amazon is enforcing that right now anyway. They don't allow, like, actually agents doing that. However, everyone thinks that next holiday season, so holiday season 2027, we'll actually see already, like, significant purchasing volume. And if you look at no matter what projection, that share is just... Will grow, sometimes more aggressively, sometimes less. But it will grow and it will basically encompass the majority of just the world's commerce. And that number is a huge number. It's a number with a t. And we think that what we build with Delegate is basically kind of the first step to that because it allows basically agents to just securely buy the stuff they need. And right now, this stuff is mostly like tools for the agents to do its job because that's what it does for the human. But going forward, that stuff will be like also like physical goods and anything else. And we think that, you know, there will be a couple of players in that space and that space will be huge as you said, and we wanna Alright.
00:18:58 · Brett, Maximilian Freiermuth
[00:18:58] S0: Now for those who wanna just follow along with you, your journey, and keep up with everything at Delegate, where should we send people? And, of course, where should we send people if they wanna just play around with the product? [00:19:05] S1: I think for this audience, we have dlgt.io/frontlines. We'll put it in the comments. Amazing. Thanks so much. Thank you.