Sachin and Adam
00:21:20 · Sachin
[00:21:20] S0: a lot more because just by virtue of having done the reps almost probably a thousand times in different episodes. Interesting. Changing the topic a little bit, how are you feeling right now regarding company building? Like, we've been doing this... I think this is seven weeks now. I think things feel a little bit different now because they don't feel new. Yeah. And we're gonna be going sort of publicly launching in like a bit of a month or so, and we're starting to feel stretched. How are
00:21:47 · Adam
[00:21:47] S1: you feeling? Yeah. I think there's definitely been a change in energy, especially in the last week. I think we started going a lot harder. A lot of things are more focused. It's less strategic work. It's more like going really hard at things. It's almost like less creative. I think the novelty's worn out a bit, but almost in a nice way. Like it's nice when the novelty's worn out, but you can still see yourself doing something for decades. Like that that's a feeling that I haven't really experienced before. But I think overall I'm feeling good. I think I do have a bit of like FOMO about like my old life and about like alternate lives that can be living. What I hate that FOMO. But I always feel that. I think it's like even when we were out in Surrey Hills on the weekend, just seeing a lot of people that are like just free and having a lot of fun and having a lot of drinks with big groups of friends, which is almost something that like we can't really afford to do anymore because we work all weekend. It's like can't really afford to be hungover. I think I've really prioritized depth of relationships and friendships rather than breadth for the first time. And that just means you see people a lot less and now we're getting to the age where, you know, seeing a friend once every six months is completely normal. And you can have good friends that you see once every six months, which is a little bit sad in some ways. Like, I think maybe I'm just having a bit of a bit of like remorse almost from my old life and that early twenties life where it's share house, there's a lot of parties. Because I think there's big aspects of myself that still like gets a lot of value from those things and like big social social groups and stuff like that. I think like, you know, I think what's going to happen is that like I'm still going to party and I think when I party those one time every three months I'm going go really hard and like really enjoy it but then also not do that kind of mid partying where you have like four or five beers for no reason and then you're hungover and you've spent all this money. So so I think I think that's one piece.
00:23:35 · Adam, Sachin
And and then I think the second piece is like a life of a little bit more like isolation in the sense of when you're working a lot on weekends and you almost have a little bit less energy because you're going so hard in the week, you actually need time to recharge more. So your weekends almost become a lot about setting yourself up for the next week. Yeah. And so work is almost like this big big part of your life and it's, you know, try not to talk about it, but it's like, you know, the one thing that's on top of your mind all the time. And it's like, you know, it's glorified all this focus and stuff like that. But I think there's parts of it that, like, are very different and I don't know. [00:24:10] S0: I think most people wouldn't enjoy actually. Interesting. Doing a fundraising round as a startup is tough. We know because we just did it. You've gotta get a lot of documents sorted. You've gotta wire money. There's a lot of email back and forth, and you've gotta navigate cap tables. So if you're doing it on your own, it's really tough. [00:24:27] S1: We met Richard from Veridian Lawyers just before our fundraise, and he literally saved our life. Working with him was seamless. He got all the docs organised, he explained the process to us,
00:24:37 · Sachin
[00:24:37] S0: and it all went extremely seamless. So if you're an early stage company or late stage company, and if you're in the tech world, and you need to incorporate your company, you're doing a fundraising round, or you need any other legal advice around startups, you should contact Viridian Lawyers. And if you want, you can message us, and we'll happily give you an intro to Richard. I had, like, all the same reflections. A bunch of them came out on Saturday as well. And it's, like, really polarizing because when Friday happened and we had that brilliant interview with David Perrell, I was like, what a fucking privileged life we're living. Like, my life consists of doing the thing that I love most. Like, we're building a company together. We're doing incredible interviews. I am, like, the fittest I've ever been. I still see my friends, and that's, like, brilliant. And, like, to be able to do that at 25 is just amazing. But at the same time, we're also living this, like, really inorganic life where we're saying no to a lot of things. We cut, like, social outings to be like, oh, okay. Dinner on Saturday night. I'll be there for two hours. Not not like half an hour later, that sort of stuff. And, like, your life becomes time boxed. And I'd... I thought I wouldn't mind that, but it started to feel this, like, weird sort of robotic sense. Because I think that, like, one of the cool things about sort of being young and, like, in your twenties is that you sort of got time to do stuff. There's a bit of, like, spontaneity in your life and following where energy goes. But we live this, like, very time boxed life where it's like, we literally see out. Like, our calendar is just filled, like, weeks on out. So that sort of feels a little bit strange. And I think that just comes back to the notion of sacrifice, like what we're sacrificing. Like we sort of are able to have it all, but like things just get wound back a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. I think
00:26:22 · Adam
[00:26:22] S1: I think a focus on me over the next kind of year is going to be like how to still cultivate those things that mean a lot to me. I think maybe it's just going be like, hey, maybe working a little bit less on weekends, maybe doing some of the weekend work at the beach or at a cafe and maybe having like, I'm actually... I used to get up like fairly early on the weekends and I think I'm actually going to not put that self on expectation on myself. Like I think still going to have like, to use the nerdy phrase, extended deviation of like no more than an hour after my normal time. But I think, like, I had this pressure of getting up really early in the weekend, but I actually, like, this weekend, my body just need to rest. Like, I was, like, completely smashed. Yeah. And, you know, I had, like, a a late dinner with my girlfriend on Friday night and, like, that's... It wasn't like, you know, boozy or anything like that, but it was just like I got up that Saturday morning. I'm like, fuck. Like my body actually needs to rest. And having this expectation on yourself to get up really early exercise all the time is just like, I don't think it's actually feasible in the long term if you're in your mid twenties.
00:27:20 · Sachin
[00:27:20] S0: And the ironic thing is that if we actually give ourselves more time to rest, like, will feel better. Mhmm. Like, if we have that sort of sleep in, if we have, like, slow Saturday or Sundays, but then that just means more compromise. Because more rest means, like, you're actually gonna say no to more social events. Yeah. So I had a bit of an angsty weekend because I had probably, the most... So up until this year, I've had really free weekends. I've been like, nope. I just wanna work on a weekend, bit of exercise, few friend catch ups. I had probably, like, five to six social events, and I knew I was still gonna be able to do some work. But I got really anxious because, like, I need that time to rest and recuperate. And it's like, it's just two things pulling on each other. I think it's, like, worthy to note as well is that all these feelings are very derived from, like, standards of modern living and social media. Because we probably have this thing within us where we think that we need to do everything. Like, there's... We wanna have a great social life, great fitness life, great business life, relationships, go to a festival every now and again. And part of that is, like, I think modern life says that you can have all those things, and social media means that you compare and you see people doing those things. Life for, like, everybody that has existed has never, like, actually realistically had capacity that people can do all those things. Yeah. Modern... Like, life always is full of compromises and we're, like, so privileged as well. So I think we've got this very high bar and standard of what we can do.