00:17:32 · Molly Wood, Jason Calacanis, Alan Chang
[00:17:32] S1: but also if there has, if they make it part of our mandate to say, as you're planning for your growth, are you being intentional about the potential bad outcomes? That seems really valuable. [00:17:44] S0: Yeah, unintended consequences blind Yeah, I think it's, there's a category of things that could derail a startup and you know, going down that list of things that could derail it, is a nice way to look at a value proposition for an investor. Yeah. It's like here are... I always tell people like, I could tell you what's around the turn and what speed to take that turn. You still got to drive the car, but I can tell you like, if you're going into a hairpin turn, you know, most people would take it at 30, you want to try 40 or 50, great. You probably don't want to try 60, 70, because you're probably going to slam into that wall or flip the car. And that's typically how I say to people like, you know, that's a flip the car scenario. You want to burn... You want to have six months of runway instead of eighteen, man, you know, there's not a lot of room for error there. So you're going to be taking a... It's like going up the PCH and whipping around turns. It's like, yeah. Could be fun. You could get there quicker. You can get to your destination ten minutes quicker. You could also go off the rail. And, you know, they they don't have guardrails on the PCH. I don't understand this. You ever drive the PCH, Molly? Let's Yes. See we can [00:18:49] S4: the PCH.
00:18:49 · Alan Chang, Molly Wood, Jason Calacanis
[00:18:49] S4: the PCH. [00:18:49] S1: No. You... It's exciting. I'm so sorry. I apologize. He breaks through the... My son is home sick today and it breaks through the do not disturb. [00:18:56] S0: As he should. As he should break through the do not disturb. So just in wrapping. [00:19:00] S4: I a [00:19:00] S0: priority. I don't drive the PCH. Don't drive it. Don't drive it with my kids, I don't drive it myself. Why? I like to drive fast. I like to take the turns fast sometimes, and they don't have guardrails up there. And I just don't, every time I drive that thing, especially since I had my daughters, if I'm going up to like one of those beaches in Northern California, and there's a way to go up and then over, as opposed to go on the PCH, I'm taking the long way. I'm not taking the scenic route. I don't want that scenic route with no guard rails. I got very important people in that car. I'm not even thinking about myself. If I was driving up there, I'd be in my Corvette with the Tiptronic, you know, revving that engine. But with those daughters in there, heck no. [00:19:47] S1: And honestly, that's how you should think of this as a startup founder. [00:19:50] S0: Exactly. If you want to be a solo founder, you're a consultant, you're a podcaster, you want to go crazy, feel free. But once you got those passengers in the car, you got those LPs money in the car, you got your team in the car, it's the higher responsibility. [00:20:05] S1: Responsibility, yeah. [00:20:06] S0: Just take it serious.
00:20:06 · Jason Calacanis, Molly Wood
[00:20:06] S0: Just take it serious. [00:20:07] S1: All right, well we have a great This Week in Climate Startups coming next. [00:20:11] S0: What do [00:20:11] S1: you got? Yes, Exactly. Sunday show. Big Sunday show. This is so interesting. Alan Chang is the founder and CEO of Tesseract Energy. Previously, he was the CRO at the fintech company Revolut, and basically was like, how can I apply my kind of understanding of disrupting payments and finance to energy, which is such a complicated space involves tons of payments and finance? And this company Tesseract's goal is to generate affordable renewable power. So they are actually building financing through the sale of tokens, renewable energy projects. They wanna generate a terawatt of renewable energy capacity, and then they're doing two things where they are allowed. They sell that energy direct to consumers with no middle person. So it's like, oh wow. A fraction of the cost of buying from a utility where they're not allowed. You can buy the token, which is a representation of excess energy and then sell that excess energy back into the grid. You just offset your power cost at home. Really interesting, very challenging, but super disruptive if it works.
00:21:17 · Jason Calacanis
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00:22:38 · Molly Wood, Alan Chang
[00:22:38] S1: Alan Chang is the founder and CEO of Tesseract Energy, previously, a very early employee and CRO at Revolut, the global financial super app that you're all familiar with. Alan, welcome to This Week in Climate Startups. [00:22:51] S4: Thank you. [00:22:51] S1: Well, first of all, let's talk about how you made this switch from Revolut into the idea of Tesseract Energy and just trying to tackle the climate problem altogether.
00:23:01 · Alan Chang
[00:23:01] S4: Sure. So I think, you know, like for me, would consider myself like a problem solver. So I've always loved to solve, you know, big, hairy problems. So Revlo is a great platform for me to do that. And, you know, essentially in the last few years I've been thinking about Revlo is growing very fast, it's making a lot of money, it's profitable. There's over 20,000,000 people using it. So I've been thinking, you know, what is next? What is the next biggest problem to solve? And effectively, I actually accidentally stumbled on energy, And it was, I think it was, we looked at the battery company, was battery trading company that was making a lot of money, right? And my first question was woah why are they making so much money? That doesn't make sense. Then I Yeah started exactly like how the hell are they money in batteries right and you know it's the same battery as you know you find in your iphone right and your mac. So we started digging and digging deeper and deeper, and then we just realized actually in the energy industry, there's a lot of broken things, things that don't really make sense, right? And also, we're not doing so well you know, our net zero target, right, in decarbonization. I'll say we are pretty behind target. And also, I don't see a lot of innovation there. And, you know, another thing we found was there's a lot of these solar and wind, right, which is the of, the levelized cost of solar and wind have been dropping rapidly in the last twenty, thirty years. Actually, if you compare it to, let's say, one of the biggest drivers of energy production today, which is your gas, Renewable is actually four times cheaper already compared to gas. What you have today, right, is the cost of energy production is actually going down, but the price of energy is actually going up. So something really doesn't make sense, right? It's like, I think it's a classic example of market failure. So yeah, so effectively, I decided to do something about it. And hence how that's how Test Driven was born.