00:48:40 · Paige Finn Doherty, Molly O'Shea
[00:48:40] S0: of your favorite, like, do you have favorite comedians? [00:48:42] S2: I love Will Ferrell. Oh, okay. I love Will Ferrell. He's amazing. Is there gonna [00:48:48] S0: be a... He's on my list. He's on your list. So Will Ferrell, please. [00:48:52] S2: Will Ferrell. Would like to When it happens, we're [00:48:56] S0: gonna like roll the tape back and be like... [00:48:58] S2: I might have to do one with Jack Altman, can I guess? Yes, yes, yes. [00:49:03] S0: Well, gotta get the Between ferns, [00:49:05] S2: two ferns. Yeah. I mean, this is not a fern, but we got a hedge here. [00:49:07] S0: We got a hedge. And some grass. Yeah. I like that. You do have a great sense of humor. [00:49:13] S2: Yeah. So anyways, I have a dry sense of humor and like, this was even a problem when I worked different funds, right? It's like I would deliver things with a straight face. And so I've been working on the whole smiling thing. I've been getting better at it. Whole, my whole life, like why aren't you, you should smile more. You know, like the whole thing is like, girls should smile. I just wouldn't smile. I just wasn't a smiler. And so now I'm getting better at smiling and now I'm getting wrinkles from it, which sucks. But, so, so yeah, I delivered that with great poise and no one knows. It was still incredible. [00:49:48] S0: Still to this day. It's a mystery. We speaking of mystery, do you
00:49:48 · Paige Finn Doherty, Molly O'Shea
[00:49:48] S0: Still to this day. It's a mystery. We speaking of mystery, do you [00:49:54] S2: have an upcoming list coming out? So I do have a list coming out and I could show it to you before the end or whenever this comes out. I hopefully this comes out in time because I want to put the list out this Friday or as soon as possible, maybe even tomorrow. Hard to compete with the anthropic guest one that just dropped today. The same day as another episode I put out, which kind of sucks, but we'll make sure it goes well. And, but yeah, I want to get that list out as fast as possible because it's like, you know, it's been the most helpful resource to me. You asked like how many of the people have I interviewed and I interviewed probably over 20% of it. Wow. I put out [00:50:32] S0: a list. Really incredible. It was like dream. [00:50:34] S2: Dream guest. List of the top 100, like also most hard to reach. Totally. Powerful people in technology and finance. And I got 20%. That's crazy. I just got on it in like a month of putting that out there. So like, so it's great. So I definitely, I want to make this like an annual thing. I like, even for that one, I had taken off of some of the people that I had on it because a 100 people gets short really quick. And even with this one, was like, damn, am I gonna have to make it like a 150, but you just got it. It's all about cutting it down, reducing, making it, you know, concise. So we'll have that out soon.
00:50:34 · Molly O'Shea, Paige Finn Doherty
[00:50:34] S2: Dream guest. List of the top 100, like also most hard to reach. Totally. Powerful people in technology and finance. And I got 20%. That's crazy. I just got on it in like a month of putting that out there. So like, so it's great. So I definitely, I want to make this like an annual thing. I like, even for that one, I had taken off of some of the people that I had on it because a 100 people gets short really quick. And even with this one, was like, damn, am I gonna have to make it like a 150, but you just got it. It's all about cutting it down, reducing, making it, you know, concise. So we'll have that out soon. [00:51:18] S0: I'm really excited for them. So do you exclusively choose your own guests then? Or do people like pitch you and then what is like [00:51:30] S2: the breakdown of them? Good question. So this is, art and a science. It's incredibly difficult. I, of course, like, you asked me before, like, will I start a fund? Will I do all this other stuff? It's like, I still need to perfect this, like, only because the podcast and everything, we do really great numbers. We do hundreds of millions of impressions a year and views, like even the like hundreds and hundreds of millions, like we have so much reach. We have, like, we have become a name and it's like a thing. You are [00:52:05] S0: one of tech's top podcasters. Yes, I am.
00:52:05 · Paige Finn Doherty, Molly O'Shea
[00:52:05] S0: one of tech's top podcasters. Yes, I am. [00:52:09] S2: I'm so happy to be here. Being you. And, and so, and like, because of that, I just, it's still not to me like there yet. Job's not done. Job's not done. I don't know if I can say that because it's like a, you know, competitor thing, but job's not done yet. You're right. We could say it's fine. And, and so my, my kind of like, am I saying focus question at the end of the day, I'm looking at interviews that I'm doing that I'm scheduling them, that I'm rearranging them, I have to rearrange things [00:52:45] S0: every week. Oh yeah, I bet.
00:52:47 · Molly O'Shea
[00:52:47] S2: It's really hard. Like, and I feel bad because sometimes it's like people that I'm close with or like friends I know and whatever. I'm like, fuck, like I have to all of a sudden go across the country or go to Europe. Like, yeah, and I will do this at a drop of the doubt. And that's why I keep on winning. Like, because I take it so seriously and I hustle my ass off to make sure that I'm getting the top 100 and that I'm prioritizing myself at the end of the day. And I get distractions every week. And I'm not saying all these are like, you know, it's bad or anything, but there are phenomenal companies and like announcements that I have to say no to and whatever. And, you know, sometimes those will, and like, if you look at it on a metric space, it's like, sometimes those will perform better because they're in that media storm of like announcements and blah, blah, blah. It'll get attention. Like you're guaranteed that. But for me, for building the brand, like building who I want as my, kind of like, I wouldn't say like legacy of people that I've interviewed, but like archive. Right. Like, like I just have to be maniacally focused on that or else I will be just, I won't, I just won't be operating like cleanly and like true to myself because if I keep honing in and filtering and refining, like it'll only make it better in the long term, but I could easily just do announcements all day and do them every day and just be completely full and busy. But the goal is not to be busy and full. It's to be intentional and it's to be crafting a story from all these different points of view and from some of the biggest names. Like last week I interviewed Jenny Johnson, CEO of Franklin Templeton. She's been on my list for a while. She is a killer and she was so fun to interview. She was awesome. She was like, I just got back from Uzbekistan. I'm like, what? She's like, I'm not thinking that clearly today. I'm like, are you kidding? Like, and like we're talking with her team and like her off is like anybody else's on. She was pulling references from like crazy places and she's a student of history. She loves, she's just such a interesting mind. And so it's like, I just always have to remind myself, like gear back towards the focus. Don't get distracted. I don't need to start a fund right now.
00:55:06 · Molly O'Shea, Paige Finn Doherty
I don't need to be like, you know, a scout, like I'm definitely not a scout. I'm way past that. Like an advisor, blah, blah, blah. None of these things. Like people have asked me to join their board of directors for public companies. And I'm like, no, like it, it, it causes a conflict with what I'm doing today, which has been the best job I've ever had. And I want to have for as long as possible. I need to stay focused. [00:55:32] S0: I love that. Well, I feel like you had to speak to your continued, like relentlessness, focus, creativity is really inspiring. I'm really excited to see what you do over the next decade plus. Thanks. How are you thinking about your vision for sorcery and what success looks like for you?