Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
01:18:57 · Lenny Rachitsky, Tom Verrilli
[01:18:57] S1: Favorite recent movie or TV show that you've really enjoyed? [01:19:01] S0: Star City on Apple TV. If you liked For All Mankind, it's kind of like the flip of that, but it's the Soviet side. It's like watching The Americans and For All Mankind mixed together. [01:19:13] S1: Favorite product that you have recently discovered that you really like? [01:19:17] S0: This is a very deep cut, so I will apologize to most listeners. Hopefully you've detected the accent. I'm told constantly that my Australian accent is going, but one of the things that I love is every time I go home, I realize actually a bunch of the government services apps in Australia have become phenomenal. You ever had that kind of concept where you're like, the government has all my data, I wish there was just one place where I could with one click, get my driver's license renewed, I could transfer titles, and do all of the admin that slows you down in life. Services New South Wales actually nailed. Bizarre to me that I would ever come on a podcast and say, actually, a government-run app in Australia, of all places, is it, but I was home recently and had to do all of my life admin, and it's incredible. [01:19:58] S1: Wow. Something I heard recently about Australia while we're on that topic, real quick tangent from lightning round, is with a solar panel build-out that just happened there, there's more electricity available in Australia than they can use. And they're giving people free- [01:20:13] S0: [inaudible 01:20:13] solar, huge in Australia.
01:20:13 · Tom Verrilli, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:20:13] S0: [inaudible 01:20:13] solar, huge in Australia. [01:20:14] S1: So it's like they're giving people free electricity in the middle of the day because there's so much available. And they're like, use all your stuff in the middle of the day because otherwise it's going to go to waste. [01:20:22] S0: There is a pitch somewhere that says if AI actually needs loads of electricity in order to feed data centers, Australia's entire 21st century economy should be power. [01:20:30] S1: Incredible. That's such good news that we are finding ways to generate so much energy from solar panels. [01:20:37] S0: Small piece of regulation about 20 years ago that said if you're building a new property, you got to put solar panels on the roof, and it turns out it works great. [01:20:44] S1: Oh my God, I love this. I love this optimism of the future because climate- [01:20:47] S0: It turns out [inaudible 01:20:48] the way through. Not the problem. [01:20:51] S1: Hear hear. Okay, two more questions. Do you have a favorite life motto that you often come back to in work or in life?
01:20:51 · Lenny Rachitsky, Tom Verrilli
[01:20:51] S1: Hear hear. Okay, two more questions. Do you have a favorite life motto that you often come back to in work or in life? [01:20:59] S0: In my uni days, or back in college for American translation, I used to have a party trick of I'd memorized If by Rudyard Kipling because I thought it was deep and really meaningful. But I think if I'm being really honest, I'll figure it out, is probably the closest. It turns out most things are not as hard as people think. We'll work it out. I'll figure it out. If you're willing to devote the required time, money, effort, energy, you can solve almost anything. And if you're not, then it's probably not that big of a problem. [01:21:28] S1: Final question. I imagine people ask you this a lot, but I'm also just curious, what's something you bought on Whatnot in the past month or so that was just awesome, delightful, surprising? [01:21:38] S0: The most fun thing I bought recently, I'm not joking, is a live lobster. Recently, one of the things that's really taken off on Whatnot is now fresh and specialty foods kind of category. And so there's this wonderful seller who goes by efish_co, who has a seafood store down on the dock in San Diego. And every morning as the boats come in, he literally goes out and live streams all of the crates of seafood coming in off the boats, and then he auctions them off live on Whatnot and ships next day to your door. So I got a California spiny tail lobster shipped direct to my door, courtesy of a live stream. [01:22:13] S1: And how's this work? They put in ice, ship it next, same day?
01:22:13 · Lenny Rachitsky, Tom Verrilli
[01:22:13] S1: And how's this work? They put in ice, ship it next, same day? [01:22:16] S0: It's in a dry ice kind of container and it's UPS overnight, on my door the next day. And that is why agentic commerce is going to be great, but not all encompassing because I had no intention of buying a spiny California lobster that morning. [01:22:29] S1: Unless your agent decides you need eat lobster today and we- [01:22:31] S0: I got to be honest with you, it was delicious. [01:22:34] S1: Amazing. I did not know you could buy stuff like that. Tom, where can folks find you online if they want to follow your writing/hiring? Talk about what you're hiring for. And finally, how can listeners be useful to you? [01:22:45] S0: You're looking for me online, I'm TDRobbo, T-D-R-O-B-B-O on Twitter, or X, I guess, which is where I do most of my musing. It's a mix of product management and yelling about Warriors games, so apologies in advance. And then on LinkedIn is the other place I've put most of my work writing. I will say I try for quality over volume, so don't expect daily drops from me on either. [01:23:09] S1: Just bangers, just bangers once a year. [01:23:11] S0: That was the nicest thing anyone said about me in ages. Just dropping casual bangers. And how can folks be helpful? Honestly, would always welcome feedback around Whatnot, and how people are finding it and what more we can do better. So hit me up on either of those platforms with hot takes, feedback, or thoughts.
01:23:11 · Tom Verrilli, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:23:11] S0: That was the nicest thing anyone said about me in ages. Just dropping casual bangers. And how can folks be helpful? Honestly, would always welcome feedback around Whatnot, and how people are finding it and what more we can do better. So hit me up on either of those platforms with hot takes, feedback, or thoughts. [01:23:28] S1: And then you're hiring PMs, even in spite of the many strong opinions about product management. Maybe just talk about that and where folks can apply. [01:23:34] S0: Sure. Listen, we are constantly looking for PMs. The intent of explaining how many people applied versus hired was not to discourage people. It was more along the lines of the proliferation of product management doesn't itself naturally lend to the people with the skillset that you and I have spent the better part of 90 minutes talking about right now. But we hired two people yesterday. I'm very excited for them to come start. And we've always got a variety of PM roles open. The Whatnot, if you just Google Whatnot jobs, the right application process will pop up there. Or I've found that the value is small enough and product management is not that kind of obscure that you can probably find one of the 20 or so humans who work at Whatnot and reach out to them. But we're looking at a variety of things right now. Payments, very high on our list of what we're doing as well as logistics. So if anyone is really excited to come work on the future of shipping lobsters overnight, it turns out there's quite a lot of nuanced product work happening there.
01:23:34 · Tom Verrilli, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:23:34] S0: Sure. Listen, we are constantly looking for PMs. The intent of explaining how many people applied versus hired was not to discourage people. It was more along the lines of the proliferation of product management doesn't itself naturally lend to the people with the skillset that you and I have spent the better part of 90 minutes talking about right now. But we hired two people yesterday. I'm very excited for them to come start. And we've always got a variety of PM roles open. The Whatnot, if you just Google Whatnot jobs, the right application process will pop up there. Or I've found that the value is small enough and product management is not that kind of obscure that you can probably find one of the 20 or so humans who work at Whatnot and reach out to them. But we're looking at a variety of things right now. Payments, very high on our list of what we're doing as well as logistics. So if anyone is really excited to come work on the future of shipping lobsters overnight, it turns out there's quite a lot of nuanced product work happening there. [01:24:29] S1: Amazing. Tom, thank you so much for being here. [01:24:31] S0: It was a pleasure, mate. Thanks for having me.