00:04:54 · Robin Guo
[00:04:54] S0: So I think GLP-1s will definitely grow. I think more and more people... Right now there's still some stigma. People are, like, not sure about the side effects. They're not super educated on it. There's still some stigma about, like, oh, like, I wanna get lean the natural way. And I think now people are realizing the research is coming out that GLP-1s are like super, like they improve your health in many ways, right? So they improve your cardiovascular health, they reduce cholesterol, reduce they triglycerides, they improve kidney function. There's all these things that improves. They reduce addiction. And so it's very much good for people and good for humanity. And I think people will start realizing that more. And then especially when we come out with new novel delivery mechanisms that are less invasive. Because I think honestly, like a lot of people don't wanna needle themselves. I think more and more people will be on GLP-1s. I think more peptides will be researched, but I do think that it requires the scientific community to go take it a little bit more seriously and do actual studies on it right now. Because right now there's just a bunch of people like YOLO ing a bunch of peptides into their body, which I think is not always the best thing because these are not like, you know, proper clinically studied compounds. And so I think from a safety perspective, we should probably still be doing some more research. But I think in general, it's good that, you know, we are pushing things faster.
00:06:12 · Ruby Justice Thelot, Robin Guo
[00:06:12] S1: So not sure if you're familiar with Chairman Berb on Twitter, But she famously threw the peptide rave, who's her birthday party here in San Francisco. There's all these reporters that were there. [00:06:23] S0: Yeah, yeah. [00:06:24] S1: And I was talking about the growth of peptides and this big consumer trend that's happening. [00:06:28] S0: Yeah, yeah. [00:06:29] S1: And I wanted to get your take. Why are all these people suddenly testing out peptides? Is it safe to just do home injections and experiment on yourself?
00:06:29 · Ruby Justice Thelot, Robin Guo
[00:06:29] S1: And I wanted to get your take. Why are all these people suddenly testing out peptides? Is it safe to just do home injections and experiment on yourself? [00:06:44] S0: Let me think about what I'm allowed to say here. So I think it depends on the... I don't think I'm allowed to say too much here, basically. I think from a... Like, compounds should be prescribed by a physician. I think there are certain things that people have high risk tolerance for, but this is not legally allowed. Whether or not it affects your body and your choice, I think is up to the individual. But I think from a legal perspective, a lot of these research chemical peptides are for research purposes, right? So we buy bulk research chemical peptide to test in animals, as an example. So I buy grams and grams, like tens of thousands of dollars of peptides from China to go test it in my animals to go and do studies. But I think if you're doing it on yourself, one, it's not legally allowed. And two, it's kind of, ideally you should be, have some sort of scientific background to understand what are the risks involved with just putting different peptides into your body. So anyway, from a legal perspective, it's not. So I don't know if I can comment too deeply on how I feel about it. [00:07:55] S1: Alright. On a personal level, do you?
00:07:55 · Ruby Justice Thelot, Robin Guo
[00:07:55] S1: Alright. On a personal level, do you? [00:07:59] S0: On a personal level, I just take tirzepatide for... But it's mostly for my blood sugar. And so I get it prescribed through online medication portal and then basically will take a small amount because I'm pre diabetic and my dad's diabetic. And so I mostly like it to control my blood sugar than also to control my hunger cravings. Because sometimes I get really hangry. [00:08:23] S1: Oh, man. Me too. Yeah. [00:08:24] S0: So I I like not getting angry. Ad[00:08:27] S1: Man. I wanna shout out our sponsor, Lovable. You know the app you've been meaning to build? The internal tool, side project, or product you'd otherwise lose a weekend to? With Lovable, you get software you can ship today. That includes an editable code base you can inspect and change, plus two way GitHub sync. Lovable also handles the backend and infrastructure including managed Postgres, auth, storage, hosting, payments, and more so you don't have to wire it all up yourself. And through Lovable's MCP server, you can create and deploy your project directly from the agents you already use. Turn ideas into software people love with Lovable. Lovable. Dev. Now onto the episode. Man. Sorry for all the personal questions. Maybe I'll zoom out a little bit. I think the other thing I'm curious about is just macro trends here. Yeah. What are the timelines on this? I know you're doing research. Yeah. But when will peptides become the norm in modern day society?
00:09:23 · Robin Guo, Ruby Justice Thelot
[00:09:23] S0: Interesting question. I think in a few... Well, it really depends on what happens after Trump and what the FDA's perspective is. So I think there's a lot of regulatory gray area right now. So it'll kinda depend on that. But I think in four to five year... So I think GLP-one will continue to grow. Like right now it's a $90,000,000,000 market and it's just gonna grow like 15, 20% year on year. I think once we have new modalities of like oral pills, patches, nasal sprays, that sort of stuff, more people will be open to it. And I think that's gonna blow the peptide market like apart and people are gonna try different types of peptides. Hopefully people do more research. So usually a compound in typical biopharma takes like eight to ten years to get to market. But hopefully some of these things can be a little bit accelerated. Like for instance, the COVID vaccine, obviously that was emergency use that took like under a year to get to market. So I think this is quite different, but hopefully within like three to five years, this will be much more widespread, but in a more regulated way too. I think it's good that there's more regulation so that people get like, high quality compounds. Right? Because you don't know. Sometimes you buy... Like, if people are buying on web [00:10:34] S1: dark web.
00:10:34 · Ruby Justice Thelot, Robin Guo
[00:10:34] S1: dark web. [00:10:35] S0: Yeah. Well, the the China... Some of the Chinese ones are actually pretty good. Alright. But then, you know, if you're buying from India, if you're buying from, like, South America, like... Or if it's been, like, it hasn't been tested. If it's some random Chinese facility. [00:10:47] S1: Alright. Where can we find out where to buy the best underground dark web Chinese peptides? I'm just kidding. We're live. We're live. So whatever you say here, we'll get