Y Combinator Startup Podcast
00:36:45 · Alex Danilowicz, Aaron Epstein
[00:36:45] S1: That is absolutely the ultimate test. We're just two people that are here behind some cameras. You know? Talk to your users. [00:36:52] S0: Alright. Let's do another one here. Slashy, your intelligent inbox. So first of all, their logo kinda confused me a little bit. It looks like s slash ashy is what it makes me think of. So I get that it's clever, and it's got a slash in the slashy. But if I had just seen that without the context of, like, slashy.com, I think I would have thought this was s slash ash... Ashy. Okay. Your intelligent inbox, slashy drafts replies in your voice, schedules meetings, and handles follow ups so you spend less time managing email. Okay. Cool. So it's like a new email product, and they've got a demo here that's pretty big. It's cool to show a demo, but there's so much going on. There's so much text in the demo. It's hard for me to mentally orient around what's happening and what it wants me to take away from this. Mhmm. So I see Pied Piper metrics before Thursday. I see something happening in an agent in the bottom right that it keeps flipping over to, but it's not slow enough where I can get my head around what it's actually typing, what's happening, and what the product is doing here.
00:37:57 · Alex Danilowicz, Aaron Epstein
[00:37:57] S1: That's that's fair. I will say what they're doing well is I know immediately what it is. Mhmm. I know that, okay, this is kinda like superhuman. This is a Gmail replacement. Right? Yep. I actually have this problem my... Myself. My email is overloaded. But, yeah, it's like it... Maybe this would be better as just showing kind of the chat inbox, almost like an animation versus a screen re... Recorded video. I would encourage this founder to get an agency to do a really cool animation that might go here and might actually work better than kinda full screen video right here. [00:38:30] S0: Yep. Replies drafted in seconds. Okay. And I guess it's going through these tabs here on the side. And the problem with these is if you scroll through, it's... You will miss Right. The other ones. And these are just... Seem to be on a timer. Yeah. You can see the line going across at the bottom there, which is cool. But the problem with any time you have tabs is you have to expect that people will not see anything that is behind the other tabs. [00:38:58] S1: Totally. You have to assume that I am just going to see... Well, what's interesting... Wait. Let's refresh this because I think this is always a good thing to pay attention to. Let's pretend we spent time on intelligent inbox. [00:39:08] S0: Mhmm.
00:39:08 · Aaron Epstein, Alex Danilowicz
[00:39:08] S0: Mhmm. [00:39:09] S1: Is the timer going? Yeah. Like, it doesn't look like it. It looks like it's probably actually just starting right when I actually... Which I... When I scroll, which is great. But what's interesting, sometimes I notice on sites that the timer might start going before the user is seeing it. And so you don't even realize this, but everyone is actually seeing snippets Yeah. Even though you might consider it the fourth most important thing.
00:39:31 · Aaron Epstein
[00:39:31] S0: Yeah. I think when we got down here the first time, voice drafts was the thing that was highlighted. And maybe because we're just kinda scrolling back and forth, and so we started the timer without actually reading them. Maybe the other thing that I'll mention here is I can't tell, again, what's happening in the screenshots. And I think if I was, like, really... Okay. AI drafts and what's happening, and I tried to really orient myself and pay attention, I could try to figure it out. But most users are not actually looking at something for the first time and spending that level of depth and scrutiny on what's happening. And so it... It's cool they're showing the product. I wonder if there's a more focused, dumbed down way to actually communicate what is happening with each of these rather than showing all the granularity and level of detail of the actual interface. Totally. Okay. So we got some social proof here. Loved by the busiest people. We've got an investor at Redpoint. We've got a content creator who I I don't know. So... Alright. So some people use this. And and, again, they've got a security link up at the top. They've got social proof here on... Here's people that are actually using this because you're... Again, you're asking them to entrust you with their... Your inbox, and that is one of the most sensitive areas to give anybody access to. So it's an interesting challenge for how can you build that trust and get people to download and start using it.
00:40:54 · Alex Danilowicz, Aaron Epstein
[00:40:54] S1: Yeah. And social proof is so important. Right? That's always why, typically, you see logos above the fold. I think founders should always consider, though, who they're using as social proof. Like, just as an example, I see investors and founders, and I think, okay. This is for investors and founders. Mhmm. Which, you know, kinda makes sense. Like, they they are busy people, which have lots of emails. But immediately, I just... Like, even with both investors on this side, on the left hand side, I think, oh, wait a second. Is this just an inbox for VCs? [00:41:24] S0: Yeah. Maybe it is that they're targeting founders and VCs. I'm not sure. Or is it for general consumers? They say for busy people. So maybe this is, like, a prosumer, superhuman kind of thing, then writes in your style. Okay. This is cool because, you know, it's showing that it's going through and, and making edits, that actually match the style. Like, that view right there That's awesome. Is cool. [00:41:45] S1: This is really... This is, like, kinda the animation that I was talking about. Something that you could design in Magic Patterns, by the way. But this is really, really neat, where I I totally get what it's doing here. [00:41:55] S0: And handle your inbox from iMessage. Again, we got more of these tabs. It started at the third one down there. So there was review and approve. But, yeah, same same as above.
00:41:55 · Aaron Epstein, Alex Danilowicz
[00:41:55] S0: And handle your inbox from iMessage. Again, we got more of these tabs. It started at the third one down there. So there was review and approve. But, yeah, same same as above. [00:42:07] S1: That's cool too, though. It's it's interesting to me. Like, this is kinda what's resonating with me. Right? Like, oh, my... You know, there's so many problems with you. You have so many inboxes, whether it's text messages, what app, your Gmail, your Slack, and it's kinda consolidating that. Like, this is really resonating, and, yeah, it would be cool if that was... Maybe that should be pushed to the top if users are appreciating that. [00:42:27] S0: Yeah. I mean, that's a problem I have. Too many inboxes. And so that would have resonated with me to the extent that I am both a founder and a investor that would be interested in this. [00:42:36] S1: One more thing that I think is great is actually just how long this landing page is. I learned this from the post hoc guys, actually. So the post hoc folks had a massive footer to communicate that they were, you know, a big company. Right? And so I always encourage folks to think about, like, what is kind of the meta thing that's being communicated? And just by the sheer fact that it's a really long landing page, I think, oh, this company's been around a while.