00:22:05 · Daisy Wolf, Mark Hyman
[00:22:05] S1: Amazing. Okay. Talk to me about like kind of your environment. Like how much are you thinking about microplastics, toxins, household products, skincare [00:22:16] S2: products? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's a great question. So I'm on the board of a group called the Environmental Working Group, and that is sort of a research and lobby organization that has done a lot of work to help identify what are the removable sources of toxins in our environment. And at ewg.org, and a lot of the free resources are there, but they have great resources, for example, on food. What are the dirty dozen foods that you never want to eat if they're not organic? Like strawberries, you should never have if they're organic, but you're have a banana or an avocado or whatever. It doesn't matter. So it gives you a list of the dirty dozen, clean 15. So you don't have to shop only organic. If you want to do a clean 15, there's very low pesticides on those, for example. [00:22:58] S1: And it's the skin or not is kind of the thing that matters.
00:23:02 · Mark Hyman
[00:23:02] S2: Yeah. Yeah. It's a little more than that. But... Yeah. Basically. Yeah. And then and then there's, you know, how how to choose the right fish that has the lowest mercury, how to choose the right meat that's the safest for you in the planet. So they have real good guys on that. And then they have a skin deep database, which is very sensitive, where you can literally scan or put in your product. They have an app for it. So any skin care products, lotions, creams, shampoos, you know, makeup, whatever, with a lot of toxins in the skincare products. So I really recommend people doing that. They also have household cleaning products. You know, what are the what are the brands that are... You know, if it has a skull and crossbows on it, you know, and you have to lock it away from your kids. You probably don't want to use skin in your house. Right? So I think, you know, I'm really pretty strict about household cleaners and detergents and so forth. So that's that's again another great resource. So you build these into your automatic things. I just have those products in the house. I don't I don't... I I... My skincare products are all from brands that are are clean and good. So I I don't have to worry about it because I just reduce my exposure. Then I have a reverse osmosis filter in my kitchen where I pick my drinking water, and I have a air filter in my bedroom and a few of the key rooms I spend a lot of time. And those are the ways I I minimize my exposures. You can't do it impossible to do a 100%. And I'm just like... You know, I... My joke is if humans were food, we wouldn't be safe to eat because we're so full of environmental toxins that we we accumulate them. We're on the top of the food chain. So, you know, it's it's really unfortunate. But but you can minimize your exposures and reduce your risks. Microplastics is another big one. I mean, to drink out a water bottle of water, you'll have a steel bottle and not not drinking out a plastic.
00:24:35 · Daisy Wolf
[00:24:35] S1: You've always been kind of on the cutting edge. How do you like kind of decide where to draw the line between what's clinically proven, what's emerging, what your gut and you is right? Yeah. Really pertains to what you're doing, less so advice for others. I think you probably
00:24:51 · Mark Hyman
[00:24:51] S2: Yeah. I mean, yeah, you're right. I mean, that might mean we're more adventurous. But I would say that, you know, there has to be some scientific rationale or evidence for it. It has to have some safety profile to it, and it has to sort of not have no serious downsides or side effects. So if it's something in that category... And and the price is also an issue depending if you can afford it, but I'm lucky I can afford it, or I also get help for free because people give me stuff. So I'll dig it. So for example, one of the things that I've found really interesting is a lot of the work on platinaphoresis. So a lot of site... Science labs that are funded by a lot Silicon Valley billionaires are looking, for example, how do we how do we look at interventions that can help reduce the aging process or clean out old damaged proteins. So podopheresis is actually blood cleaning. It's kinda like a little bit of the Bryan Johnson where they kinda did the plasma chain with his kid and father, and that was a little strange. But there's... This is a medical technique that's been used for decades in hospitals for various issues, but it's being applied in a new way to help remove all the inflammatory damaged proteins, toxins from the blood. So I'll, pretty ample, do that, which is a little more on the edge. And that I find treatment of blood interesting, and the data's there. So I'm willing to try something like that.
00:26:07 · Daisy Wolf
[00:26:07] S1: What's one thing that gives you hope about this current moment where, you know, I think we're seeing more focus on personal health than we've ever seen before? And what's like one thing that kind of gets you pause or makes you concerned?
00:26:21 · Mark Hyman
[00:26:21] S2: Yeah. It's a great, great question. I mean, I think we're at the radically historic moment in medicine right now. And most health care, medicine, government has no clue that's happening. And and this is this intersection of a number of different really radically big trends, and innovations. One is is reimagining of human biology from a systems perspective. How is everything connected? How is the body a network, a network system? Even though we have specialists in organs and diseases, it's not actually how the body's organized. And so when when scientists now have been funding this and researching the hallmarks of aging, which is the underlying mechanism of aging, they're like, well, if you treated those, you could extend life for thirty or forty years. But if you just got rid of cancer and heart disease, extend life by five to seven years. So we're looking at what are the the underlying biology and how do we think about the laws of nature? What are the laws of biology? And that's really where we're at now. It's like like... It's like almost like nineteen o five on Einstein writing the theory of relativity. It's it's that big of a frame shift in understanding between physics and quantum physics and, you know, old medicine and new medicine. The second thing that's happening is just the amount of data we can get. So you can get, you know, terabytes of data on your human biology from lab testing to genomics, to imaging, to the amount of data is just insane. And and so we've never had the capacity to look at your body in such a comprehensive way and also at its cost. You know, even your whole genome sequence for 300 now, it used be a billion dollars, like a billion with a So that's radical. MRI, I mean, I went and get my knee done and it was $2,500 for an MRI. Now I can get my whole system done for like full body for $4.99. And then and then we have the Tether Sheen Learning AI revolution, which is the only thing that's gonna allow us to understand the massive datasets that we can now accumulate on individuals. So the idea for Function, in my view, is to create a system that democratizes health care, that gives access to low cost, affordable, preventative, and health optimization care for billions of people.