Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth
01:20:50 · Cat Wu, Lenny Rachitsky
[01:20:50] S0: Yeah. I think this is my favorite reason to work at a startup at some point in your life because one thing that was very life-changing for me was actually working at scale when we were 20 people, and so there was just no process and we had really big problems that we needed to solve. And I really appreciate Alex and the rest of the team for empowering me and the rest of the team to just figure things out without any boundaries for what sales supposed to do, what ops supposed to do, what engineer is supposed to do. Just like you have all the tools at your disposal, you have some ambitious hairy problem statement and you can do whatever you need to get to a good solution. [01:21:28] S1: You almost need that experience to build that skill to feel comfortable doing that because a lot of people, they go through school or in college and all these do the thing we tell you to do and then you will get a good grade, and you have to kind of unlearn that of like, okay, I'm just going to do the thing that needs to be done, and even if people think it's dumb, I think it's the right thing to do. [01:21:46] S0: Yeah, exactly. [01:21:47] S1: Okay. I actually have two more quick questions, two more final questions. One is when Claude thinks there's all these, I don't know if you call them verbs, what's the term for these things? [01:21:56] S0: Thinking words. [01:21:57] S1: Thinking words. And interestingly, these all leaked in the source code. Do you have a favorite thinking word?
01:21:57 · Lenny Rachitsky, Cat Wu
[01:21:57] S1: Thinking words. And interestingly, these all leaked in the source code. Do you have a favorite thinking word? [01:22:03] S0: I really like manifesting. It's also like the sticker that I have on my laptop. It's my favorite. [01:22:10] S1: Clearly the winner. Okay. Final question. Asked Forest this too, with AGI potentially arriving in our lifetime, when you don't potentially have to work, what are you going to do? What are you going to do with all your time? [01:22:23] S0: I think it will take a long time for AGI to diffuse across society. So I think the immediate thing is actually just helping bring the world along. I think my non-serious answer for it after this happens is I'll probably just do a lot of rock climbing. I'll probably just live in some... I'll probably move to Fontainebleau and just live amongst 10,000 boulders and climb for a bit. There's also so many books I want to read that... My goal is to be able to read one or two books a week, and I'm currently at probably 0.5. The backlog is pretty big. I think there's just so much we can learn from history and so much that I don't understand as well as I would love to. I don't know anything about physics or robotics or any hardware or aerospace or... There's just so many interesting topics. So I'm excited to learn, even knowing that the AGI will already know it. [01:23:26] S1: Cat, this was amazing. You're awesome. Two follow-up questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and just follow what you're up to, and how can listeners be useful to you?
01:23:26 · Lenny Rachitsky, Cat Wu
[01:23:26] S1: Cat, this was amazing. You're awesome. Two follow-up questions. Where can folks find you online if they want to reach out and just follow what you're up to, and how can listeners be useful to you? [01:23:35] S0: The best way to reach out is I am _catwu on Twitter. Feel free to tag me in things. Feel free to DM me. I read all my DMs. I don't always respond to every single one, but I will read them all. And then the thing that is most helpful is tell us where Claude Code and Cowork aren't working well for you. We are very grateful for the amount of positive feedback, but the thing that we thrive on is edge cases, errors, like specific tasks that we can reproduce where Claude Code or Cowork fail, because if you're able to share that with us and we're able to reproduce it, then this is something that we're able to actively improve for our next generations of models and for our next harnesses. [01:24:25] S1: Extremely cool. Everyone on... People on Twitter are not shy with sharing this feedback, so keep it going. [01:24:30] S0: Yes, please share the problems that you're having with us. [01:24:34] S1: Yeah, and it's really cool to see all your team being so active on Twitter and responding to people. And so what I'm hearing, this is actually stuff you guys actually see and react to.
01:24:34 · Lenny Rachitsky, Cat Wu
[01:24:34] S1: Yeah, and it's really cool to see all your team being so active on Twitter and responding to people. And so what I'm hearing, this is actually stuff you guys actually see and react to. [01:24:44] S0: Yeah. We appreciate everyone being so engaged with us. It gives a team a ton of energy. We have this channel of user love, and so whenever you guys share a success story, we post it there and whenever you guys share issues with our product, we put it into our feedback channel, that way our broader team is able to act on it. [01:25:02] S1: That is so cool to know. Thanks for sharing that. Well, Cat, thank you so much for being here. [01:25:08] S0: Thanks for having me. [01:25:09] S1: Bye, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. If you found this valuable, you can subscribe to the show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or your favorite podcast app. Also, please consider giving us a rating or leaving a review as that really helps other listeners find the podcast. You can find all past episodes or learn more about the show at lennyspodcast.com. See you in the next episode.