00:38:02 · Sebastian Johnson, Alan Chang
[00:38:02] S0: But where do you think, I guess, even if you look at it just like energy infrastructure, whether it's... Or any infrastructure, like, where do you think we are massively underinvesting in to pursue those objectives, whether it's massive wealth creation? Where should we be focusing more of our time and resources? [00:38:20] S1: Yeah, I think there is a misallocation of talent. And like the top engineers in the world are not solving the most important problems, right? If you look at, I mean, let's look at a startup industry, right? There are more engineers building like B2B SaaS, right, than, you know, a foot into an energy company. And to be honest, I love to see more companies trying to tackle what the problem we're tackling. Because right now there is... Don't think we have any serious competition. We have incumbents, sure, but if you look at, okay, a startup that has a bunch of very high agency, high IQ individuals, there isn't a lot. Why is that not the case? This is obviously a very important problem. Why isn't more talented people solving this problem? So there's a huge misallocation of talent that I hope I can convince some of these engineers to be like, Okay, wake up. Do you really want to be building workflow automation for a 300 year old company, or do you want to actually make a difference? [00:39:55] S0: Interesting. Why do you think there is such a misallocation?
00:39:55 · Sebastian Johnson, Alan Chang
[00:39:55] S0: Interesting. Why do you think there is such a misallocation? [00:39:58] S1: Yeah, I think it's really dictated by... I mean, if you look at job creation, right, it's really decided by the job creators as well as the capital allocators. And I'll say most entrepreneurs, right, want to build B2B SaaS, right, because it's a much safer option. It's a much simpler, safer option than tackling a much challenging problem. As we touched on before, investors also love investing well, European investors love to invest in B2B Yeah. So the result is, like, if I'm an engineer, you just convert to where most of the jobs opportunities are, right? [00:40:48] S0: Yeah. When you know of other founders in your community, like, are there other founders that you think particularly standout here in Europe that are not getting the attention or the capital that they deserve? Is there, like, a standout founder that you know that you think this person is gonna build something transformational? [00:41:05] S1: I think there's a couple that I've met that are, I think, have very high potential. I'm not sure if that's for the existing companies, But I think, like they're still very young, but I think there's a couple I met that are, I think, going to be exceptional.: [00:41:24] S0: Interesting. Okay. A final question. Are you leveraging AI in your own personal work life? If so, what's your favourite tool?
00:41:24 · Sebastian Johnson, Alan Chang
[00:41:24] S0: Interesting. Okay. A final question. Are you leveraging AI in your own personal work life? If so, what's your favourite tool? [00:41:32] S1: I think for non engineering tasks, I'm using more Gemini more and more. I used to use Chateaubitia, but I've searched for Gemini. I think Gemini is getting like very good. But otherwise, yeah, for engine related, like cursor. [00:41:53] S0: Yeah. Cursor, really interesting. You said that's the strongest. [00:41:56] S1: Yeah, it's a very simple way for me to understand what's happening in the codebase. [00:42:00] S0: Got it. Well, look, Gunnar, thank you so much for having me. [00:42:02] S1: No, thanks for coming in.