Transformation Every Day
00:50:34 · JP Haas
[00:50:34] S0: I think you're spot on. I think it's going to lead to expertise and more strategic and value added services gaining relevance and everyone having more time for that. Right. And I think what we are gonna ask or would ask our consulting partners to do is to really double down on that to, number one, become the best experts at using and leveraging the tools that exist. And number two, thinking about how do I use the time that this unlocks now in order to provide even more value added insights and advice to my clients. I think the mindset needs to shift from it's a good thing that there's a lot of manual work that I can charge for. And this is driving volumes of projects and the amount of days that I can sell needs to evolve from that to how do I create as much value in as little time as possible in order to be the partner for for these rapidly changing companies now. And if that if that mindset shift happens, if you use the tools in order to automate all of the work that isn't differentiated, but you do focus on the differentiated work that makes you build more resilient systems and get to the best possible architectures and solutions, then I think there's a very, very bright future for the consulting industry. And for sure, there is a lot of space for expertise and also human judgment in making these trade offs. Absolutely.
00:52:08 · Johannes Langguth
[00:52:08] S1: But what I think what will be one major part is that if you are, for example, a consultant in, let's say, the CRM space or in the finance controlling space and so on. You get now all the tools and all the the kind of helpers to become something like like like the Iron Man in the Marvel world, yeah, where AI is supporting you with with the crazy tasks and so on. It's supporting you with the IT based stuff, like the coding stuff, like the stuff that may in the past be a lot of part of your work, but which was not really business related. So if you are now an FICO consultant, lots of the IT part will be done by your tools in your toolbox based on AI, like Conduct AI. You have to become now again more and more the kind of business consultant who works with these kinds of tools. Yeah. Because you have now the tools to make your customer in that kind of discipline that he's working at. If if if you're working with an IT... F I department, for example. Yeah. To become best in class. So what you should do, of course, now is to tell them like a company in your industry with your, let's say, in your area and so on, has these kinds of technical possibilities to be best in class. And I can help you with my tools to get that get that possible in record time. And I think we are still too far away from that that... Than than I like. But examples like what you present here is is showing the urgency of us to develop towards that. Yeah. Because everybody can say like, okay, AI is maybe risking our jobs. Of course, we have to develop in that way and we have to develop the tools. And when why I used the hammer and I have now a drill, definitely I should waste no time and learn how to use a drill and it's much better like.
00:53:56 · JP Haas, Johannes Langguth
[00:53:56] S0: And the same happened in software engineering, right? Look at look at how software engineers, especially in startups, but also in big enterprises work today. They're all using the tools available from from AI. And importantly, this hasn't reduced the need for for very good engineers. Quite the opposite. Exactly. You even more so need to know how you're going to implement it, why you're doing it that way, what are best practice architectures and implementations. And I would argue it's more important than before because you're getting more and more volume being pumped through the system, but you need to be able to discern what... What's a good way of doing this. And the same applies on SAP side as well, both from a technical perspective as well as from a functional perspective. Right? Both of these remain highly relevant, but you can do so much more in less time. [00:54:47] S1: Definitely. When you look into the next six months, I think six months already is a huge space in your industry. What can we expect from Conduct AI? What are your plans? What are you working on and are looking forward to release to the world?
00:55:02 · JP Haas
[00:55:02] S0: Yeah. Let me answer in two different ways. On the SAP side of things, there's a lot of very, very exciting features that we have in the pipeline. We're gonna have full public cloud support, for example. We're also moving into the data migration side of things much more. And you're gonna see us being that operating system end to end and that being fully in effect. There's going to be companies that are running end to end change cycles and transformation projects by still proving everything, but Conduct has basically done all of the work on the way. The second element is that Conduct was never built as a as a pure SAP tool and as a pure SAP add on. It's the same problem, and we said this in the beginning of the conversation, the same problem applies on the Salesforce side, on the Oracle side, in many, many custom built applications, of course, right, the ones that are that are completely custom for the for the enterprise that have built them. We're becoming more and more that layer of understanding the end to end business process and how it's implemented in the logic that sits in any of these systems and being able to manipulate, change, and manage that logic across the whole the whole life cycle. Even today, we're live with Salesforce already. We have lots of other ones that are in beta now as well. And customers are are using it that way. Right? There's there's use cases around we need to change our billing mechanisms, and that impacts code both in in Salesforce as well as in SAP, and Conduct can generate the change requests and implementations across both of these systems, making sure that you don't need to coordinate between an SAP and Salesforce team anymore. You don't need to... You don't have all the risk of of interfaces not being adjusted properly. So you're gonna see much more of that as well.
00:57:02 · Johannes Langguth, JP Haas
[00:57:02] S1: Perfect. And if you go completely crazy in the glass bowl section, where do you see or how do you see IT organizations and consultants work in, let's say, two years? What's your vision about that? [00:57:14] S0: The the vision remains what what I said in the beginning. We want to enable businesses that need to make any change about how they operate. We want them to enable to do that at the snap of a finger. You need to change something about how your production line operates and how you're you're running your logistics. The software that actually realizes that needs to be there half an hour after after the business need... Users identified the need for that. That's the division that Conduct Conduct empowers. For IT and consultants, what that means is they are becoming more and more the aspiring partner to the business of ensuring that it's implemented correctly and that the trade offs of making these different implementations are being being taken care of. Conduct is the place where all of this is is implemented and realized, but IT and consultants bring the best practices and bring the governance to make sure that everything works at enterprise scale.
00:58:22 · Johannes Langguth
[00:58:22] S1: I just wrote the sentence that you said concerning half an hour later after the requirement is set, the solution has to be there. If we have that in two years, that would be completely crazy because I'm absolutely excited about the possibilities that you have in that area if we are going to be that fast. It would be so great, and I'm really looking forward to the possibilities there. When people who are now excited with what they heard want to get in contact with you. First question, where are the events that you are to be met in the next months? What are your plans? Where... What's your flight plan in that area? And how can people follow you best, get in contact with you best, and, yeah, following your your adventures in the world of making transformation actually feasible.