AI Tinkerers - "One-Shot"
01:03:09 · Joe Heitzeberg, Luke Harries
[01:03:09] S1: And to hear how simple that is. Right? Yes. Surviving. [01:03:11] S0: It's it's great. The... I mean, I actually just shipped today just before this call, like, a chat GPT [01:03:17] S1: Mhmm. [01:03:17] S0: Which is trained on our tone of voice and tweet threads and everything. Perfect. And I said, all new external customer comms has to go through this because they will, like, align it, touch it up, make make sure it's all on brand. [01:03:28] S1: Perfect. What do you use for generation at the end of the day? Which mod, Gemini? Or what do you [01:03:32] S0: And that one, I actually... We have a chat GPT team subscription. Okay. And you can just ship GPTs within it. Oh, okay. And so that felt like a [01:03:40] S1: Open great AI. [01:03:41] S0: Yeah. Open AI. Cool. Other bits we do we do... I mean, code the entire team is in... On cursor. [01:03:49] S1: Mhmm. [01:03:49] S0: And I think there's a big opportunity for... Oh, I mean, for all our marketing videos, we use ElevenLabs. Yeah. Speech tech... Text to speech. Yeah. We also use sound effects a lot. Yeah. Like, sound effects is probably the most underrated model for marketing and video use cases. And... Yeah. ElevenLabs. Yeah. 100%. One thing I'm not if you've seen is we've shipped a soundboard as [01:04:15] S1: well. Have you seen this? Uh-uh.
01:04:15 · Joe Heitzeberg, Luke Harries
[01:04:15] S1: well. Have you seen this? Uh-uh. [01:04:17] S0: Let me just turn back on my screen. ElevenLabs soundboard, where you can like... Actually looks pretty amazing. One of the engineers built this in a week, but you can, like... Oh, I'm gonna back up the audio. But, it's like... It looks beautiful. It's styled on on summer brawn stuff, and you can assign any sound effects to it keys and so [01:04:42] S1: Imagine for video games, it's gonna be great. You know? I don't know. Like, some of the biggest budget video games that have ever been created, I'm thinking Grand Theft Auto. Yes. Have you ever noticed all the car horns are the same horn? It's like Yeah. [01:04:52] S0: Yeah. Yeah. [01:04:53] S1: For all of the realism, the horn is like for every car. [01:04:56] S0: I think I think gaming's gonna change completely. I mean, one, you have that. Yeah. Two, like conversational AI characters in games is gonna [01:05:06] S1: be amazing. [01:05:06] S0: Walk up to character, live conversation. [01:05:10] S1: Let's even create new genres of games that we even thought about. It's gonna [01:05:12] S0: be And the part which is real... Really wacky is like, what does an AI first game engine look like in the world of, like, Sora. Yeah. Sora and Bio. I think it's gonna change completely. [01:05:22] S1: It's gonna be amazing. Well, let's try to move to wrap up a little bit. Yeah. I'm very curious kinda more rapid fire style. Like, how do you keep up with the rapidly changing landscape? What are your go to resources?
01:05:22 · Joe Heitzeberg, Luke Harries
[01:05:22] S1: It's gonna be amazing. Well, let's try to move to wrap up a little bit. Yeah. I'm very curious kinda more rapid fire style. Like, how do you keep up with the rapidly changing landscape? What are your go to resources? [01:05:31] S0: My main thing is Twitter. Yep. Twitter, can you use it? Fantastic. And then Swyx has a AI Yeah. Daily newsletter, which... Yeah. I I read that. [01:05:42] S1: Yep. [01:05:42] S0: And... Yeah. Cool. [01:05:44] S1: What about... How did you first hear of AI Tinkerers? AI [01:05:48] S0: Through... I I hosted the first LangChain meetup in London [01:05:52] S1: Oh, okay. [01:05:53] S0: Couple of years ago. Yeah. And Louis, the month after, hosted the first AI Tinkerers, and I was like, actually, that one's better. So I was like, why why run my own when I can just attend Louis? Yeah. And then, yeah, came full circle. Now I have the honor of hosting the London one.
01:05:53 · Luke Harries, Joe Heitzeberg
[01:05:53] S0: Couple of years ago. Yeah. And Louis, the month after, hosted the first AI Tinkerers, and I was like, actually, that one's better. So I was like, why why run my own when I can just attend Louis? Yeah. And then, yeah, came full circle. Now I have the honor of hosting the London one. [01:06:08] S1: It's a pretty good group. I have to tell you a story about Louis. I I I get a lot of inbound from the email list of different things, you know, and opportunities. And someone was, like, VC. They looked pretty pretty legit, though, you know, in the background. Like, we don't really let VCs into our meetup. Yeah. But, you know, sometimes it's useful as a sponsor to help connect to a venue or whatever. Yeah. So I was like, fine. I'll introduce them to Louis, you know, in London. So I did the intro, and Louis' reply was like... It's on the website now, but it's like it's like, hi. I'm sorry that... This is the response to, like, I'm introducing you to this person. It's like, hi. I'm really sorry. I know you don't wanna hear this, but, you know, we've never let a VC into our meetup ever, including the ones on my own cap table. Sorry. Goodbye. [01:06:45] S0: Yeah. Was so badass. Said a great line, which is the reason why it's the best best AI meetup in London is it's because the least inclusive inclusive club. Club. Exactly. Within bounds. Like, you want it very inclusive. [01:07:00] S1: Gonna be AI engineers. Are very inclusive of engineers. [01:07:03] S0: Yes.
01:07:03 · Luke Harries, Joe Heitzeberg
[01:07:03] S0: Yes. [01:07:04] S1: Yeah. Of builders. Yes. We... I was talking to one of our builders in in the, in Warsaw yesterday. He's one of most creative. Incredible. He was the first one who did, like, an ambient AI desktop system that I've ever seen and and just an incredibly brilliant creative hacker. And he had tweeted something that kinda went semiviral in some of these circles that was like, you know, VC DMs on Twitter, like, oh, Robert, I've been following you, and, you know, I'm really impressed with, you know, this about... You know, this thing, your product. And he's he's like, oh, really? What exactly was impressive? So perfect. I thought you were. You know, it is it is a thing where I think you create this safe space for tinkerers to actually be vulnerable. [01:07:43] S0: Yes. [01:07:43] S1: It's scary. Like you said, launching your personal project, you've [01:07:46] S0: got a [01:07:46] S1: lot tied into it. And, you know, it's... You don't... You want help. You don't want, You know? Where can people find your work, your personal blog, the ElevenLabs stuff we talked about? Can you share some links so I can post? [01:07:58] S0: But Yeah. [01:07:58] S1: If you wanna [01:07:59] S0: 100%. And so the main place would be, yeah, elevenlabs.io. Yeah. You don't need to sign up. You can just type in Tras out, speak [01:08:06] S1: to
01:08:06 · Joe Heitzeberg, Luke Harries
[01:08:06] S1: to [01:08:06] S0: our voice AI agent. And and then my own blog is harries.co. I'm on Twitter, Luke Harries underscore. And, yeah, if you want... I've wrote a few blog posts recently, one which is quite... Maybe quite interesting Tinkerers, which is like how to launch your product. Yeah. Where I've like literally done the Google Sheets of how we launch our products here. [01:08:25] S1: That's amazing. [01:08:26] S0: And I think there are so many people who are building like so many cool demos, and actually that like last 20% of if you can, like Mhmm. Push it out there. Like, the WhatsApp MTP, I hope you won't mind me saying I got this one hilarious email, which was, hey, Luke. Really enjoyed your WhatsApp MTP. I always wish there was a local version of WhatsApp. I could query locally. I wish I built it when I was there. And I was like, oh, who is this guy, Jan? I'm like, Google him. It's like, turns out he's the founder of WhatsApp. [01:08:52] S1: Oh, wow. [01:08:53] S0: So like Amazing. All these cool moments don't happen unless you like actually launch it and push out there. [01:08:57] S1: Build, push it out there, and incredible things happen. Yeah. Well, thank you so much, Luke. Fantastic. [01:09:02] S0: Thank so much, Joe. [01:09:03] S1: Thank you.