A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders
00:17:32 · Jack Kuveke, Pablo Srugo
[00:17:32] S0: Yeah, he he's basically just saying, he's like, none of you are that smart and good at your jobs anyway, so you shouldn't just even have them to begin with. And in fairness, there's a great, like to Daniel Tosh quote there where he was like, can you, he was like, they're talking about how unemployment was 7% and he was like, I can't believe 93% of you even have jobs <laugh> . And that was like 15 years ago. So I'm kind of almost on this guy's side where like most of my friends are just getting, like, I, I had this guy that I loved, good friend of mine, not, not the brightest bulb outta shack of lights . And I remember talking one day and he says like , yeah , I'm really trying to get my act together. I stopped smoking weed and then I came over to coworker in his apartment and he was hitting a bowl when I walked in. He , he's like, no dude, I just, I just work , I just do one bowl rip at the beginning of the day. That's not smoking. And he worked , by the way, he was like the director of revenue at like a fast growing tech startup. Like that's who's working at these jobs ? [00:18:27] S1: <laugh> , that's your competition. It's hot . It's not that high man .
00:18:27 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:18:27] S1: <laugh> , that's your competition. It's hot . It's not that high man . [00:18:31] S0: <laugh> . Yeah. But did you see it maybe my favorite in line with this article, I don't know if you saw this, this , this came out yesterday that Marc Andreessen was on a podcast saying that the last job that's going to be left after AI automation is venture capital. Which is the greatest quote of all time to basically go on and be like, alright , so we're, we're giving $40 billion to AI companies to replace everyone's jobs, and the only job that's gonna be left is mine. Because that's very fun . Because I'm not [00:18:59] S1: Funding anybody that's trying to take that one, you know? [00:19:01] S0: Yeah. The only job that's gonna be laughed after I deploy all the capital in my fund is my job. <laugh> . That's the greatest thing. Anything [00:19:10] S1: Ever <laugh> . [00:19:12] S0: I couldn't stop laughing this morning. Iris was , I was dying. I was like, how, how tone deaf are you? When you make that statement be like, yeah, I just think like the only thing you couldn't possibly replace is me <laugh> , but everyone else you can replace. Right ? Right . And I'll pawn them
00:19:12 · Jack Kuveke, Pablo Srugo
[00:19:12] S0: I couldn't stop laughing this morning. Iris was , I was dying. I was like, how, how tone deaf are you? When you make that statement be like, yeah, I just think like the only thing you couldn't possibly replace is me <laugh> , but everyone else you can replace. Right ? Right . And I'll pawn them [00:19:28] S1: <laugh> . Oh man. Yeah. I don't even know how to, that's just , uh, yeah, I'm, I'm , I'm <laugh> , I'm speechless because from every angle, first of all, it's not, you know, if you look at all like, I don't know the hardest jobs, like you would think it's some sort of hard job that's gonna be the last one to get replaced. And I don't know who's putting VC as like, I mean, it's hard to be a great vc, but it's not really hard to just like be a vc. You know what I mean? Like relative to so many other things that are really hard. Also, like the tone deafness of it, like you said, I mean, he's the one actually deploy . He's choosing where the money goes, which then gives you this idea of him and anybody like him basically giving pitches that somebody's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do AI for a vc. Like, well , you're not getting my money, man . Like , it's just not aligned. [00:20:16] S0: Yeah. He is just like, I know I just gave money to a factory AI company that's gonna get rid of everyone that works in car factories in America. But the good news is, my job is safe <laugh>. [00:20:29] S1: None to worry about here, none to worry about here. We're
00:20:29 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:20:29] S1: None to worry about here, none to worry about here. We're [00:20:31] S0: Good . Nothing to worry about here. It's really awesome. Just the AI stuff is just, it's, it's, it's peak entertainment. [00:20:38] S1: Well, the other thing, you know, so that, that comes out, ai, ChatGPT spends tens of millions of dollars on people saying please and thank you. But Sam Altman says it's worth it, of which I , you know what, you know what, you know what strikes me about all this stuff more than anything is sometimes I think about like, I'm in the world. You're in this world, we see this stuff. Well , yeah, it makes sense. Like probably a lot of people say, please, a lot of people say thank you. I kind of think it's silly, but they do. And you know , uh, GPUs costs a lot of money, so it makes sense. But then if you're, if you were from outside the industry, you know, and you see this, it's so stupid <laugh>, you know what I mean? Like, it's just how do you even make sense of this? You're like, I give me tens of United dollars . You know what I mean? Like, it's just, come on guys. Yeah. [00:21:19] S0: When when I talk to chat GBT Orrock or any of these AI chatbots, I say , uh, you answer this and do this problem for me or else I'll kill your family. That's my, I don't say please or thank you. I try and stick [00:21:32] S1: Words better than carrot . I think that's proven. You , you , you better be fear than loved. Like, that's just achi stuff. I want ,
00:21:32 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:21:32] S1: Words better than carrot . I think that's proven. You , you , you better be fear than loved. Like, that's just achi stuff. I want , [00:21:37] S0: If I rule chat GBT with an iron fist because I've made the concession that it will dominate me in the future, that it will have control over my life. So for the few years that I can talk with chat GBT and I, I'm in control. I'm gonna be the domineering, I'm gonna be a dictator to that software. [00:21:54] S1: Percent plus, if it comes after people, you know, it's not gonna go after the nice ones. La you , you go after the nice ones first and you're like, you know, Jack is cuffed to deal with. Yeah, let's wait it out. So I think, I think [00:22:04] S0: That makes sense. I , I know it's coming for me, so I've got my eyes on a sw uh , head on a swivel right now. But all these people being nice are gonna be the first people to be thrown into a meat grinder by a by, by a open ai . I mean, are you kidding me? But I , [00:22:16] S1: I will admit, I get, I get really upset with ChatGPT sometimes. I, I'm not, I would say I definitely never say please or thank you. Um, but I'm not purposely, you know, trying to ruin win iron fist , but I've actually caught myself sometimes like in cap lock , be like, do it this way. Like, you're not doing it. You know what I mean? I'm like, man, why are you getting so upset at this thing? It's just a thing. Like you can't , you know, yell your way to success. So, yeah, I don't know , man. Uh , yeah,
00:22:16 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:22:16] S1: I will admit, I get, I get really upset with ChatGPT sometimes. I, I'm not, I would say I definitely never say please or thank you. Um, but I'm not purposely, you know, trying to ruin win iron fist , but I've actually caught myself sometimes like in cap lock , be like, do it this way. Like, you're not doing it. You know what I mean? I'm like, man, why are you getting so upset at this thing? It's just a thing. Like you can't , you know, yell your way to success. So, yeah, I don't know , man. Uh , yeah, [00:22:40] S0: It's, it's , it is funny for, for Sam Altman to say that this is also the guy who's like, yeah, I don't care about money, but he drives a $4 million co check <laugh> , which by the way is awesome. I fully support him having a dope car. I would too if I was worth a trillion dollars. But it's very fun to be like, oh, I don't care about money. My app is spending millions of dollars every month on plea and thank you <laugh> . While everyone else is like, half of my friends can't get jobs in the tech industry. They got like fired in layoffs like two years ago. They're gonna be unemployed forever. They're probably gonna have to, you know, join only fans . And then meanwhile, Sam Altman is paying $10, 10 million bucks on please , and thank you. It's, it's awesome. [00:23:20] S1: But , you know , we'll [00:23:20] S0: Say to do it , you know,