A Product Market Fit Show | Startup Podcast for Founders
00:15:25 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:15:25] S1: Specific claims they're saying like, oh, there's logos on there. We reach out to the companies and they're like, no, they're not supposed to have my logo on there. Like they, they're making a lot of claims. Yeah. And [00:15:33] S0: I think like those, they came out and were like, yeah, some of the logos on there are from past clients that no longer renewed. Maybe we should have closed those, but look at the revenue hit we have. Yeah. There's [00:15:42] S1: A big difference between that. And we lied about revenue. Yeah, sure. Yeah, [00:15:44] S0: Yeah, exactly. It's like, just because like people are that did use your co your , your product are no longer using it are on the website. Okay, maybe that's an oversight from your like three people on your web dev team that manage your website. But like to say that they're just full out lying about their customers , uh, without evidence that that's what they're going off of. I mean, I , it , it's like, it's the same thing that happened in regular media where they take like one nugget that's like not perfect and then they spin a whole story about how like someone's the devil or like, you know, is, you know, is a neo-Nazi or whatever. And then none of it turns out to be true. So [00:16:20] S1: As far as we know, 11 X is a legitimate company with legitimately fast growing revenue. That's what we're saying. [00:16:25] S0: Well, I should say they sponsored 15 of my newsletters, so I actually don't know that I'm just, they're paying me <laugh>.
00:16:25 · Jack Kuveke, Pablo Srugo
[00:16:25] S0: Well, I should say they sponsored 15 of my newsletters, so I actually don't know that I'm just, they're paying me <laugh>. [00:16:32] S1: As long as we put that out there, then it's fine. Advisors are fine as long as they're explicit. [00:16:35] S0: Yeah, I'm gonna try . I'm just trying to sell out. I mean, if any of these scam companies, if Adam Neumann wants to come and cut me a check, I will sell units for him in my newsletter tomorrow. I have no shame . [00:16:47] S1: Uh, okay, how about this, you know, this AI stuff's happening. There's a huge debate around, you know, is it gonna kill, is it gonna take all jobs? It not gonna take all jobs Is scary. Is it not scary and just about everybody, but I know building an AI at least makes the claim whether they believe it or not, that actually , uh, it's not scary. It's just gonna augment every other technology as as augmented humans, long term , et cetera. And then , uh, then this comes out also on TechCrunch, obviously famed AI researcher launches controversial startup to replace all human workers everywhere. So he's, and what's the name of this company? Mechanize. So he's basically just saying, no, I'm just <laugh>. I'm just doing it . Yeah , just, just, just going for it . I mean, you do have to admire , uh, somebody who's so forthright and just kind of says how it is .
00:17:32 · Jack Kuveke, Pablo Srugo
[00:17:32] S0: Yeah, he he's basically just saying, he's like, none of you are that smart and good at your jobs anyway, so you shouldn't just even have them to begin with. And in fairness, there's a great, like to Daniel Tosh quote there where he was like, can you, he was like, they're talking about how unemployment was 7% and he was like, I can't believe 93% of you even have jobs <laugh> . And that was like 15 years ago. So I'm kind of almost on this guy's side where like most of my friends are just getting, like, I, I had this guy that I loved, good friend of mine, not, not the brightest bulb outta shack of lights . And I remember talking one day and he says like , yeah , I'm really trying to get my act together. I stopped smoking weed and then I came over to coworker in his apartment and he was hitting a bowl when I walked in. He , he's like, no dude, I just, I just work , I just do one bowl rip at the beginning of the day. That's not smoking. And he worked , by the way, he was like the director of revenue at like a fast growing tech startup. Like that's who's working at these jobs ? [00:18:27] S1: <laugh> , that's your competition. It's hot . It's not that high man .
00:18:27 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:18:27] S1: <laugh> , that's your competition. It's hot . It's not that high man . [00:18:31] S0: <laugh> . Yeah. But did you see it maybe my favorite in line with this article, I don't know if you saw this, this , this came out yesterday that Marc Andreessen was on a podcast saying that the last job that's going to be left after AI automation is venture capital. Which is the greatest quote of all time to basically go on and be like, alright , so we're, we're giving $40 billion to AI companies to replace everyone's jobs, and the only job that's gonna be left is mine. Because that's very fun . Because I'm not [00:18:59] S1: Funding anybody that's trying to take that one, you know? [00:19:01] S0: Yeah. The only job that's gonna be laughed after I deploy all the capital in my fund is my job. <laugh> . That's the greatest thing. Anything [00:19:10] S1: Ever <laugh> . [00:19:12] S0: I couldn't stop laughing this morning. Iris was , I was dying. I was like, how, how tone deaf are you? When you make that statement be like, yeah, I just think like the only thing you couldn't possibly replace is me <laugh> , but everyone else you can replace. Right ? Right . And I'll pawn them
00:19:12 · Jack Kuveke, Pablo Srugo
[00:19:12] S0: I couldn't stop laughing this morning. Iris was , I was dying. I was like, how, how tone deaf are you? When you make that statement be like, yeah, I just think like the only thing you couldn't possibly replace is me <laugh> , but everyone else you can replace. Right ? Right . And I'll pawn them [00:19:28] S1: <laugh> . Oh man. Yeah. I don't even know how to, that's just , uh, yeah, I'm, I'm , I'm <laugh> , I'm speechless because from every angle, first of all, it's not, you know, if you look at all like, I don't know the hardest jobs, like you would think it's some sort of hard job that's gonna be the last one to get replaced. And I don't know who's putting VC as like, I mean, it's hard to be a great vc, but it's not really hard to just like be a vc. You know what I mean? Like relative to so many other things that are really hard. Also, like the tone deafness of it, like you said, I mean, he's the one actually deploy . He's choosing where the money goes, which then gives you this idea of him and anybody like him basically giving pitches that somebody's like, oh yeah, I'm gonna do AI for a vc. Like, well , you're not getting my money, man . Like , it's just not aligned. [00:20:16] S0: Yeah. He is just like, I know I just gave money to a factory AI company that's gonna get rid of everyone that works in car factories in America. But the good news is, my job is safe <laugh>. [00:20:29] S1: None to worry about here, none to worry about here. We're
00:20:29 · Pablo Srugo, Jack Kuveke
[00:20:29] S1: None to worry about here, none to worry about here. We're [00:20:31] S0: Good . Nothing to worry about here. It's really awesome. Just the AI stuff is just, it's, it's, it's peak entertainment. [00:20:38] S1: Well, the other thing, you know, so that, that comes out, ai, ChatGPT spends tens of millions of dollars on people saying please and thank you. But Sam Altman says it's worth it, of which I , you know what, you know what, you know what strikes me about all this stuff more than anything is sometimes I think about like, I'm in the world. You're in this world, we see this stuff. Well , yeah, it makes sense. Like probably a lot of people say, please, a lot of people say thank you. I kind of think it's silly, but they do. And you know , uh, GPUs costs a lot of money, so it makes sense. But then if you're, if you were from outside the industry, you know, and you see this, it's so stupid <laugh>, you know what I mean? Like, it's just how do you even make sense of this? You're like, I give me tens of United dollars . You know what I mean? Like, it's just, come on guys. Yeah. [00:21:19] S0: When when I talk to chat GBT Orrock or any of these AI chatbots, I say , uh, you answer this and do this problem for me or else I'll kill your family. That's my, I don't say please or thank you. I try and stick [00:21:32] S1: Words better than carrot . I think that's proven. You , you , you better be fear than loved. Like, that's just achi stuff. I want ,