00:21:06 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:21:06] S0: Getty Images, but then they're also featuring generated images. [00:21:10] S1: Mhmm. Anyway, let me tell you about CrowdStrike. Your business is AI. Their business is securing it. CrowdStrike secures AI and stops breaches. There is another interesting article in The Wall Street Journal on the cover, the front page of the main section. The what what did they what did they actually call what did they actually call the main section? There's the business and finance section. Is this just world news? I don't know. Anyway, on the cover of The Wall Street Journal, it's the world's creepiest office and people won't stay away. This is, the New York complex vacated by IBM has become a magnet for urban explorers. We have a video of this place. And if you're a scrappy startup looking to expand, this might be the key to success, the ultimate lock in factory in sort of rural New York, I think. We'll we'll get into it. So this is in Summers, New York. I don't know exactly how far away that is from Manhattan. [00:22:09] S0: Yeah. So if you were like a NeoLab and your name was like Ominous Intelligence Yeah. There we this could be a great sort of HQ, potentially, you know, your first little micro data center. Very James Bond villain sort of vibe. And, yeah, it looks looks like you could make it, you know, really, really homey. [00:22:32] S1: How far is it from Manhattan? Let's see. Okay. It is one hour. You can be in the city in an hour. [00:22:40] S0: Imagine walking these halls late at night after a long day at work. Yes. It wouldn't be it wouldn't be creepy at all.
00:22:40 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:22:40] S0: Imagine walking these halls late at night after a long day at work. Yes. It wouldn't be it wouldn't be creepy at all. [00:22:49] S1: Yes. Robert Carlton was getting the mail one day in April when he saw a group of teenage boys sprinting away from nearby woods. He cut them off at the road and raised his arms. I just said, stop. It's over, the 62 year old retired engineer recalled. Soon, he said three pursuing New York State police troopers emerged from the tree line and arrested seven juveniles. The criminal charge? Trespassing on the former IBM campus here. Disrespecting international business machines. Don't do it, folks. The long vacant site has become a magnet for so called urban explorers who prowl abandoned malls, hospitals, power plants, amusement parks, factories, and any other unused, disused you can breach. [00:23:35] S0: Enough of the graffiti. Yeah. Do you think put a How dare [00:23:39] S1: in here? We gotta figure out how much How dare [00:23:41] S0: they write all over The [00:23:45] S1: former home of international Office business of Yeah. Exactly. What was the what was the IBM AI Watson? Watson, the machine intelligence What do you mean [00:23:54] S0: it was? [00:23:55] S1: Was probably [00:23:56] S0: Still at frontier.
00:23:56 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:23:56] S0: Still at frontier. [00:23:57] S1: It's still at the frontier. It was super intelligent at at jeopardy. The global Urbex, which is short for urban exploration phenomenon, Urbex isn't new, but it's been turbocharged by artsy videos on Instagram and TikTok that spur others to create their own posts, luring more curiosity seekers. Police in Livingston, New Jersey recently warned people to stay out of the closed Livingston Mall property, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Police issued a similar caution in April about the shuttered adventure landing amusement park, going into an abandoned amusement park. That is thrill seeking at its best. We are aware of a TikTok challenge to explore the property. Who's doing these TikTok challenges? And should they should they be allowed to post those? This is this is dangerous for some people. I mean, seriously, you go in there, there's lot of broken glass and and, you know, who knows about the structural integrity of a building that hasn't been inhabited in years or decades? Could be very risky. [00:24:54] S0: Is it on the market? [00:24:56] S1: Well, we have some news about that. I don't know if it's actually on the market, but I imagine if you make them an offer they can't refuse, this property could be yours. So Sebastian Capital, the Manhattan company that manages the 723 acre site, that's a lot of size, says it has beefed up security and appreciates helps from help from police. [00:25:17] S0: So I'm shocked by the YouTube comments [00:25:20] S1: Yes. [00:25:21] S0: That are wholly coming to the defense of this building.
00:25:21 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Tucker Brown
[00:25:21] S0: That are wholly coming to the defense of this building. [00:25:24] S1: Saying, I [00:25:25] S0: hate there's a class of people who see something like this and feel compelled to start breaking Why do people vandalize these kinds of places? [00:25:33] S1: Interesting. Can't [00:25:34] S6: believe these are [00:25:34] S0: all the top comments. I can't believe people go in there busting up the place.
00:25:34 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:25:34] S0: all the top comments. I can't believe people go in there busting up the place. [00:25:37] S1: That's crazy. I I would have sort of expected people to be on the side of the urban explorers, on the side of the TikTok challenge, challengers. Andrew Proto, a defense lawyer, said a 15 clip isn't worth a criminal record. Don't do it. If you've already been arrested, you're not the first call we've taken this month, and you won't be the last. Proto says he has represented or advised several minors arrested on the campus. The Summers Town Town Court court clerk said some defendants received a six month adjournment in contemplation of dismissal, meaning charges will be dropped and their arrest will be sealed if they avoid trouble. Some explorers who have posted about the IBM site say they follow an observe and preserve ethos and reject vandalism. They say they're driven by curiosity, the thrill of roaming forbidden spaces and a zeal to document discoveries and that they're careful and know their limits. Limits, quote, It actually gives me hope when I hear that kids are out there getting into trouble, said Bradley Garrett, a cultural photographer and author of the book, Explore Everything, Place Hacking the City about his own Urbex adventures. He sees urban exploration as a gateway drug in a good way, sometimes into intellectual curiosity about history and culture. So you go, you break into this abandoned building, and then next thing you know, you're an IBM consultant driving enterprise value for S and P 500 companies, traveling, businessman. Could happen. Who knows?
00:25:37 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:25:37] S1: That's crazy. I I would have sort of expected people to be on the side of the urban explorers, on the side of the TikTok challenge, challengers. Andrew Proto, a defense lawyer, said a 15 clip isn't worth a criminal record. Don't do it. If you've already been arrested, you're not the first call we've taken this month, and you won't be the last. Proto says he has represented or advised several minors arrested on the campus. The Summers Town Town Court court clerk said some defendants received a six month adjournment in contemplation of dismissal, meaning charges will be dropped and their arrest will be sealed if they avoid trouble. Some explorers who have posted about the IBM site say they follow an observe and preserve ethos and reject vandalism. They say they're driven by curiosity, the thrill of roaming forbidden spaces and a zeal to document discoveries and that they're careful and know their limits. Limits, quote, It actually gives me hope when I hear that kids are out there getting into trouble, said Bradley Garrett, a cultural photographer and author of the book, Explore Everything, Place Hacking the City about his own Urbex adventures. He sees urban exploration as a gateway drug in a good way, sometimes into intellectual curiosity about history and culture. So you go, you break into this abandoned building, and then next thing you know, you're an IBM consultant driving enterprise value for S and P 500 companies, traveling, businessman. Could happen. Who knows? [00:27:02] S0: Could happen. Raghav wants to turn it into an Amman.