00:51:00 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:51:00] S1: What's happening? [00:51:00] S0: Rachel Carton, an amazing Substack creator, author of Lincoln Bio, says, Today Instagram announced they are testing long form horizontal videos called features. The platform wants to be a place where you watch a ninety second video and a ninety minute video all on your TV. They are also testing lives in the reels tab, a hub for series and more. So coming straight for YouTube, I like it. I think more competition is good. I'm interested to see how YouTube responds to this. You know, when when Netflix started courting YouTubers, YouTube said, hey, if you put your videos there, we're gonna destroy your reach. We'll see what they do here. The the feature that I think is most interesting, so Yeah. Masary was talking about this on Colin and Samir's show. Cool. Right now, there's... We have a big problem. And we may have played a part in it, but the big problem is that you get a clip, right? And you get like this really interesting moment and... [00:52:01] S1: We're all looking for the guy who did this. [00:52:02] S0: Yeah. We're all looking for the guy who did this. But you get this bit, you get you get this interesting, you know, And thirty seconds, let's some percentage of the people watch the clip and then go find the full length thing. But most of the people get like, they feel some emotion whether it's joy or rage. [00:52:18] S1: Some percentage, like two basis points. Yeah. Yeah.
00:52:18 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays
[00:52:18] S1: Some percentage, like two basis points. Yeah. Yeah. [00:52:23] S0: We've we've noticed this where like our our core show Yeah. The recording of the live and the diet, they just sort of grow at a steady rate every single day. But like a viral clip here and there doesn't actually drive like a huge uptick. Yes. And so that's just proof that [00:52:38] S1: But it can drive like a conversation. Yeah. Drive it a distillation of like, wait, that's all they talk about all day? You know, like Yeah. People can see it as like a... [00:52:45] S0: And so what I think is interesting here and I'm sure that YouTube will respond in in some way, it feels relatively straightforward to implement, is like you'll be able to watch a clip and then just click into the... Like, while on Instagram, click into the main, the full video [00:53:02] S1: Yep. [00:53:02] S0: To that to that point and then you can like watch the whole conversation around it. Cool. I think it's gonna be very healthy because... [00:53:09] S1: Yeah. This is... That's good. [00:53:11] S0: Yeah. Because we we've had instances in the past where like someone, you know, watches one of our clips, gets angry at it and like because of something that we said, you know, immediately outside of that like short little bit. And it's like now we understand that that's like a reality of the situation and and that could potentially be bad or good or whatever it is. Yeah. About this arrow? But I think just like more more competition
00:53:11 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:53:11] S0: Yeah. Because we we've had instances in the past where like someone, you know, watches one of our clips, gets angry at it and like because of something that we said, you know, immediately outside of that like short little bit. And it's like now we understand that that's like a reality of the situation and and that could potentially be bad or good or whatever it is. Yeah. About this arrow? But I think just like more more competition [00:53:33] S1: is good. And and because I I think I didn't have my question and and I was like, oh, I I I actually asked exactly what you're saying in the question but we didn't clip the question. So it looked like the answer was not aware of that or something. [00:53:48] S0: Don't know. Yeah. [00:53:48] S1: It happens all the time. [00:53:49] S0: Yeah. No. The big one is like this... There was controversy around a... Like an animal wildlife bridge [00:53:58] S1: Oh. [00:53:58] S0: Here in Southern California. [00:53:59] S1: Yeah. Yeah. [00:54:00] S0: Yeah. And I... We are very pro the wildlife bridge. The only thing I was like not so pro was the fact that it was running years and years over schedule True. And you know, $100,000,000 more than it should have cost and all these things. Of course, that cons... The the those elements got lost. Yeah. But anyways, I will be very curious if people start watching Instagram on on TV.
00:54:00 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Joey Brookhart
[00:54:00] S0: Yeah. And I... We are very pro the wildlife bridge. The only thing I was like not so pro was the fact that it was running years and years over schedule True. And you know, $100,000,000 more than it should have cost and all these things. Of course, that cons... The the those elements got lost. Yeah. But anyways, I will be very curious if people start watching Instagram on on TV. [00:54:25] S1: Should the... Should Instagram make a TV? Because it would spy on you for sure. It would definitely be tracking everything to sell you more products and target ads. But I feel like the Instagram team would at the very least make it fast. They would not accept slow performance. They will track they can show [00:54:47] S0: you more ads. Exactly. The funny thing is when I'm when I'm like when I'm on my Samsung TV, I'm really only seeing like one. I mean, they don't even serve great ads. That's the most annoying thing. Like Yeah. Serving me. I have never I've never clicked on a gambling ad in the Samsung TV. Yeah. And that's just like like maybe at some point learn that maybe they're just like [00:55:14] S1: percent of advertisers quit before they're back [00:55:17] S0: to hook a new... [00:55:18] S8: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. [00:55:19] S1: Oh, did you see the you see the new call she had with Shane Gillis? [00:55:24] S0: It was kind of... I saw it. I didn't watch it. [00:55:26] S1: It was really it was really polished. Was really well done, I thought. It was very, very funny. Yeah. And... [00:55:32] S0: Yeah. A lot of people were, like, reluctantly giving them props.
00:55:32 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:55:32] S0: Yeah. A lot of people were, like, reluctantly giving them props. [00:55:35] S1: Yeah. I mean, it was kinda... It kinda had a complicated story. Like, it's like these two dueling weathermen and, like, it just escalates in this interesting way. Like, it was like a it was a sketch. Like, it was like a whole four minute production. It was it was cool. Anyway, we have our next guest joining in just a few minutes. Let me tell you about Figma. Agents, meet the canvas. Your AI agents can now create and modify your Figma files with design system context. And should we go over to the timeline? The Tesla Roadster was on display at the Peterson Museum in Los Angeles. I didn't make it over to see it in person, but reviews were very positive. Everyone says it looks like a spaceship. People like the way it looks. But also it doesn't have... [00:56:19] S0: It really looks like a young person drew it. [00:56:23] S1: That's the best. [00:56:24] S0: But that can be a
00:56:24 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:56:24] S0: But that can be a [00:56:25] S1: I believe in the young person in the kid test. If a kid thinks it's cool, it's cool. Stop overthinking it. Oh, this, you know, four d chess, blah blah blah. If a kid looks cool, it's cool. The mirrors. So there's no mirrors on this. It's obviously a concept car. You have to put mirrors on a car every time. Elon hates this because you don't need mirrors in the modern era. Can just use cameras. Everyone knows the cameras are actually better than the mirrors because they can be wide angle and they can show up There's on a never going to be a blind spot. There's never going to be, oh, it's too dark to see what's in the mirror. It's going be amazing. Right? So we should move to mirrorless cars. It's better for the environment because of less drag. It's better for aesthetics. But we can't because of the law. Right? But I had an idea to get around it. Everyone's been trying to get around these like mirrors for a long time. This isn't even a joke. I know you're like [00:57:14] S0: I was waiting for control. [00:57:16] S1: But no. You know on most cars you can like press a button and turn the mirrors in. So you can turn the mirrors out and turn the mirrors in, but why don't you just make a mirror that folds completely flat and then people can just turn the mirrors in and then have a car that looks like it doesn't have mirrors. [00:57:34] S0: Alright. Great idea. But what's... Where's the joke?