· David Senra, Ronnie Fieg
[00:00:00] S0: Yeah. [00:00:00] S1: And a typical creative director wouldn't be doing the buying or merchandising, and I do most of those things. So, I have my hands in everything product-wise, and then I design the spaces. I'm heavily involved in the full 360 degrees of the business, even down to the experience that people have when they walk in, the F&B portion of what we do with Get Treats and now Ronnie's. So, there's a lot that I do, so I can't really describe it, and it's hard for people to get a grasp on what it is that I do if you're not following it, because it's been like building blocks since the beginning. It's not like I've given up any responsibilities. I've just added on. [00:00:00] S0: You're kind of like... I met you outside, and your car is very interesting. And I stuck my head in, and I was like, "Oh, dude, this is nice." And you're like, "Welcome to my world." [00:00:00] S1: Yeah, it's like- [00:00:00] S0: You're kind of like building your own entire world. [00:00:00] S1: Yeah. And by the way, I'm head to toe in my product, socks and underwear. [00:00:00] S0: We don't have to see that, but I will take your word on it.
· David Senra, Ronnie Fieg
[00:00:00] S0: We don't have to see that, but I will take your word on it. [00:00:00] S1: Yeah, just take my word for it. And I'm really living the product. I live and breathe the product that I create, and I'm building products for myself. And I think that people know that, so they know that there's a lot of love that goes into it. So if I'm building products for myself and I want to wear the product that we make, I also, up until very recently, was fitting four hours a week. I was the fit model for the product that we put out. So, the brand puts out more than 5,000 styles a year of product between men's, women's, and kids, and accessories and footwear. We built a universe of product, and it's been a really great evolution from the beginning. So if you ask me what it is that I do, I- [00:00:00] S0: The answer is everything. [00:00:00] S1: I'm a world builder. I built myself a world that I live in. [00:00:00] S0: But this is interesting. Why would it be important for you to be the fit model? Because literally, this is for me first.
· Ronnie Fieg
[00:00:00] S1: No, it's a great question because it actually creates efficiencies when we get a sample in and then I fit the product, and during the fitting, I make all the decisions that I need to make for that one product. So I fit the product, and then I'm deciding if the fabric is right for that body. I'm making alterations to the body. Sometimes I'll even drop it and then come up with ideas on what we need to do to evolve from that body or how a specific design can be better. So I'm giving direction live during a fitting. And the team is all there, so I have 20 people at a fitting, and you have your materials team, you have your merchandisers, you have your designers, and then you have the VP of product there and some assistants, and there we're making real decisions. So, we'll make the decisions on that product, and then we'll wait for the second sample to come in, and we got to fit that, too. I think a lot of these brands cut corners. I've spoken about this a few times with different people about how the industry cuts corners. And sometimes you walk into a store and you try something on, you have a shirt from that brand that fit well, but then you try it on and it doesn't fit well, and you're like, "Well, why'd that happen? I came back for the same style." And it's because brands will want to create another version of the same style but not fit it again. So they'll apply a different fabric to the same body, but they won't fit it again, and it drapes differently, it fits differently, and they cut corners. And even there are fashion houses that do that, where you'll walk into a very expensive store and try some product on, and it doesn't fit. It fits like shit. So I'm very meticulous to every detail only because my closet-
· David Senra, Ronnie Fieg
[00:00:00] S0: Every season, I wipe it out, and then it gets replaced with the new season. So, if I'm going to be wearing the product, it better fit properly, as I'm like the representative of the brand. I want to tell you about the presenting sponsor of this podcast, Ramp. I have been reading a lot about SpaceX lately. SpaceX is one of the most valuable businesses in the world, and one of the main themes in the history of SpaceX is constantly attacking and questioning your cost. Ramp helps many of the most innovative businesses in the world do exactly that. The median company running on Ramp cuts their expenses by 5%. And one thing SpaceX has demonstrated is that a religious dedication to controlling costs can help actually increase revenue because you can pursue opportunities you couldn't otherwise. And we see that in the Ramp data, too. The median company running on Ramp also grows their revenue by 16%. So when you're running your business on Ramp and your competitors are not, you have a massive competitive advantage that compounds over time. Ramp is the only platform designed to make your finance team faster and happier. Many of the top founders and CEOs I know run their business on Ramp. I run my business on Ramp, and you should too. Go to ramp.com to learn how they can help your business save time, save money, and grow revenue. That is ramp.com. So I love how you've used the word like love- [00:00:00] S1: Yeah
· Ronnie Fieg, David Senra
[00:00:00] S1: Yeah [00:00:00] S0: ... like several times. We started the conversation, we were like, "Hey, the people I admire the most, entrepreneurs that came before us, maybe some even operating today, it's just like they're doing it for like out of... They're not doing it for money. They make money because they love it so much, and if you love it so much, you wind up building great products. And turns out, if you maintain control and build a great product, you're going to wind up with the money anyways." [00:00:00] S1: Right. [00:00:00] S0: So, the love of this, let's go back to like the story you're saying in the second. I'm kind of learning almost like the mechanics of the business as a kid. [00:00:00] S1: Yeah. [00:00:00] S0: Right? This is before you're like, "I'm learning how the business exists or a part of the business exists." [00:00:00] S1: Yeah. [00:00:00] S0: Before you kind of put your own spin on it. [00:00:00] S1: Right. It was- [00:00:00] S0: So when you're like, "Hey, I actually have my own ideas." So me and you both know Jeff Selznick, who was on this show. [00:00:00] S1: Right. [00:00:00] S0: And he told a very similar story where he was just like, "Man, I was obsessed. I was like eating at every single restaurant. I was like the weird kid that come home from after middle school and watch PBS cooking shows." [00:00:00] S1: Yeah, I saw that. [00:00:00] S0: And then he's like, "Then I'm like eating at all these restaurants, and I'm creating media about this." And he's like, "You know what? I got my own goddamn ideas on how this should be done."
· David Senra, Ronnie Fieg
[00:00:00] S0: And then he's like, "Then I'm like eating at all these restaurants, and I'm creating media about this." And he's like, "You know what? I got my own goddamn ideas on how this should be done." [00:00:00] S1: Right. [00:00:00] S0: When was that turning point in your life?