00:10:07 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Rahul Sengottuvelu
[00:10:07] S0: Yeah. The Vibrio launch video is so dead. You can only bring it back in the year 2050. Buy 2050 Yeah. I think it will be kind of a cool nod Yeah. To the twenty twenties Sure. To use it. Be kind of like an if you know, you know thing. Yeah. Yeah. And it'll be fresh again. [00:10:28] S1: Callback. [00:10:28] S5: Yeah. [00:10:28] S0: But for now, simply do not do it [00:10:31] S1: Yeah. [00:10:32] S0: For the next [00:10:33] S1: I know why you're so annoyed by the the Twenty [00:10:35] S0: odd year. [00:10:36] S1: All the knock off vibriels. It's because it's beating a dead horse. And we love horses around here. [00:10:41] S0: Yeah.
00:10:41 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:10:41] S0: Yeah. [00:10:41] S1: And so it's extremely rude to beat dead horses generally, and this is a dead horse we definitely don't wanna be beating. Let's get...... Beat any horses. Don't beat any horses alive or dead, actually. Yeah. So in that video, Palmer explains how American engineers built the world's first modern computer, and that breakthrough kicked off the computing industry. According to Palmer, any country that can't build its own computers can't secure them. That's a really good point, especially in the era of potential hardware flaws that could create cybersecurity risk. We gotta secure this. I've heard... I don't know if it's actually, like, a confirmed story, but that at one point or maybe currently, like, the NSA has their own fab to make chips because they don't want to make computers that run their code that are insecure because what if a foreign country inserts a backdoor into the chips that they're racking to run their code? So they want to own the vertical stack, but it's very small scale and it's also not the not the cutting edge, fab process that is available internationally, but it's like good enough for what they were doing at the time. But I think that might just be a rumor. But if you don't control your technology, you can't control your future. Palmer says, eighty years ago, America pioneered modern computing to defend our nation. Now we're bringing it home. What do you think of the design? [00:12:03] S0: I like it. [00:12:04] S1: Anything else to say about it? [00:12:06] S0: I think it's good. I think the strap is good.
00:12:06 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:12:06] S0: I think it's good. I think the strap is good. [00:12:11] S1: Okay. The Tyler Cosgrove review. Comment in hot... No. I like I like the fact that it has this, like, rough texture on the top, but then it has this little cutout for, like, a little bit more geometric detail, and they cut the corner off. I don't know if you can see it, but if you zoom in, there's I think little it's more going on. [00:12:26] S0: And I also think they designed it well. [00:12:27] S1: Okay. Got it. Thank you. That's fantastic. So so let's go through quick history lesson. No. [00:12:33] S0: It would be like the the funny thing is from a retail standpoint, it would be really cool to have just extremely rugged computer. Like part of what I an iPhone is you can really... Like you can really hammer on it [00:12:47] S1: Okay. [00:12:47] S0: And it's good. Right? I mean, it certainly shows it's it definitely is, you know, not doing anything that doesn't happen day to day, falling on the ground and things like that. Sure. But having like a really rugged, robust personal computer would be cool. Like throwing it across the room Yeah. Throwing it on the couch Yeah. Throwing it at you. Okay. Like if I have a funny video on my computer, if I could just chuckle Okay. At
00:12:47 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:12:47] S0: And it's good. Right? I mean, it certainly shows it's it definitely is, you know, not doing anything that doesn't happen day to day, falling on the ground and things like that. Sure. But having like a really rugged, robust personal computer would be cool. Like throwing it across the room Yeah. Throwing it on the couch Yeah. Throwing it at you. Okay. Like if I have a funny video on my computer, if I could just chuckle Okay. At [00:13:14] S1: Yeah. So let's go through the history of American made computers. Give a list... Give us a little bit more detail on the history here, how America built them, and then lost the capability to build them domestically. So the Osborne one, founded in California, built in 1981, first commercially successful portable computer. It had a five inch screen, smaller than an iPhone, two floppy drives, 64 kilobytes, not even a meg of memory. Now we're in gigs of of memory, and it was priced at $1,795. That's pretty expensive. The company filed for bankruptcy in '93 just two years after launching it. But you can see there, you pull that out, people know you're doing business. Don't you think? I think that makes a statement. What do you think? [00:14:02] S0: Oh, I love it. [00:14:03] S1: You want a Frisbee computer? What are you laughing at? [00:14:05] S0: No. I love this. I mean, pulling this out on, like, a commercial aircraft Yeah. You know, in the eighties to just click clacking away. [00:14:14] S1: It'd be great. [00:14:15] S0: Be electric.
00:14:15 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:14:15] S0: Be electric. [00:14:16] S1: So Grid Systems, which was founded in 1979, launched the Grid Compass in 1982. This is the first true laptop looking device. That other one is kind of like a box. This looks a little bit more like a laptop, built with a folding screen. It was priced around $8,000, and it was used by NASA above... Aboard the space shuttle. That's a fun fact. Then in the early eighties and nineties, we saw the first mass market laptops in the hands of consumers. Houston based Compaq launched the LTE in... I think Jackson's taking the Texas victory [00:14:48] S0: lap. From the h. [00:14:49] S1: Straight out of the h. In 1989, it delivered nearly desktop equivalent IBM PC... IBM compatible PC in a six pound notebook sized package with battery power and floppy disks. Then in 1991, Apple launched the PowerBook. And look at Apple's design language back then. This was 1991. Wow. '91. [00:15:10] S0: Insane stagnation. [00:15:12] S1: You think this is better than what they got going on now? [00:15:15] S0: No. No. I was just like... The the... Like, we were just like, you know, the the the [00:15:20] S1: Oh, getting so much better. [00:15:21] S0: Century was [00:15:21] S1: just like Oh, you're watching everything getting so much better. And then for the last, like, ten years, it's been like, I go [00:15:25] S0: back my computer and I'm looking at that and it's like it's a gray notebook. It's the same thing? Keyboard.
00:15:25 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan
[00:15:25] S0: back my computer and I'm looking at that and it's like it's a gray notebook. It's the same thing? Keyboard. [00:15:31] S1: I think that I think that the nineties were like a big, still like a big leg up in the capabilities and the function and the... You get the touch screen like... Or the touch pad, you get the screen that goes all the way to the edges. Like, there's a... There's another... [00:15:45] S0: I'm psyched on the nineties. [00:15:46] S1: But I grieve that in the last ten years... [00:15:48] S0: What happened since then?