The Pathways & Padlocks Conversation
00:08:38 · Sid Dissanayake, Sachin
[00:08:38] S1: Yeah. I mean, like along those same lines, you mentioned off air that, you you wanted to get a message or you wanted to get a particular part of that journey across, which was that essentially it's not for everyone. It's people have, you know, different goals, different priorities, and you might not necessarily encourage other people to engage in a similar sort of competition. Was that the case or tell us a bit about that idea? [00:09:07] S0: I really believe in pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, but that bodybuilding comp was just one vehicle towards that. And I feel like a lot of young men around our age, testosterone's pumping, we think like, oh, it's bodybuilding comp kind of thing. Like a lot my friends have been like, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. And I always just ask them why you wanna do it, first of all. And second of all, is there any other way you can achieve the, you know, the change you want through doing this comp? Is there any other vehicle towards doing that? Like I would much rather recommend my friends do a triathlon or something like that than a bodybuilding comp because you can do that without your relationship suffering. Yeah. And kind of whilst living a functional life. Yeah. So, I do think the premise of pushing yourself out of your comfort zone is something that leads to kind of exponential growth.
00:09:07 · Sachin, Sid Dissanayake
[00:09:07] S0: I really believe in pushing yourself out of your comfort zone, but that bodybuilding comp was just one vehicle towards that. And I feel like a lot of young men around our age, testosterone's pumping, we think like, oh, it's bodybuilding comp kind of thing. Like a lot my friends have been like, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do this. And I always just ask them why you wanna do it, first of all. And second of all, is there any other way you can achieve the, you know, the change you want through doing this comp? Is there any other vehicle towards doing that? Like I would much rather recommend my friends do a triathlon or something like that than a bodybuilding comp because you can do that without your relationship suffering. Yeah. And kind of whilst living a functional life. Yeah. So, I do think the premise of pushing yourself out of your comfort zone is something that leads to kind of exponential growth. [00:10:00] S1: Do you think that, you know, had you not engaged in that competition, I mean, do you think that if you didn't engage in that competition, you wouldn't have known, you know, how far you can go or you wouldn't have known your limits and your capabilities?
00:10:00 · Sid Dissanayake, Sachin
[00:10:00] S1: Do you think that, you know, had you not engaged in that competition, I mean, do you think that if you didn't engage in that competition, you wouldn't have known, you know, how far you can go or you wouldn't have known your limits and your capabilities? [00:10:14] S0: So Sid, like probably two months ago, I would have answered this question differently, I've kind of started to believe more that we all have a certain trajectory. If you think back to who you were as high school, in high school, yes, we've developed, we've learned more about the world, but I think we're all fundamentally very similar people. Our kind of self talk and who we are on the inside is very similar to who we are in high school, at least that's what I believe. So I think that, I think I would have been a fairly similar person. Would have probably found something else to do. Was actually, I actually swam, I'm actually doing ocean swimming at the moment. So I did an ocean swim with one of my friends yesterday. So I think it's kind of part of my personality and I would have found another vehicle to, you know, challenge myself. But in saying that, I don't think I could have found another vehicle as difficult for me. So I'm really grateful to have had that experience.
00:11:04 · Sid Dissanayake
[00:11:04] S1: Yeah, I mean, of, you know, putting yourself outside of your comfort zone and trying different things, you know, as I mentioned at the top of the interview, another important part of your story is, you know, the podcast that you co founded with Adam called The Sachin and Adam Show. It originally had a different name, The Humans of Sydney, but essentially, based on my understanding, it was founded on both your mutual interest in connecting with people, and leveraging the experiences of other entrepreneurs, young people, philosophers, or whatever the case may be. So for those that aren't familiar with that podcast, can you firstly tell us a bit about the podcast? What was the purpose behind it? And essentially, what was the why behind starting that project?
00:11:55 · Sachin
[00:11:55] S0: Yeah, so we actually have a bit of a convoluted story. So the reason we started it initially was that Adam and I were getting coffees with lots of people. I think we both went through a period in 2018 where we're getting coffees with two different people each week. And that was leaders older than us or maybe students older than us, and we just generally want to learn from them. It wasn't career based, it was just like, we want to learn about their lives, what made them tick, their lessons for younger people. Because we both fundamentally believe in the philosophy that we're going to make a lot of mistakes in our lives. That's how we learn, right? But we don't want to make the same mistakes that people are older than us made. We want to make different ones and continue that kind of exponential learning curve. And so through these coffees, we're learning so much, a lot more than in my university degree. I'm also a person that learns from conversations as well. And we're getting so many unique insights and we thought that so many students would benefit from hearing these insights. We set out to record these insights and document them just for other people to listen to. We didn't have actually really didn't even really have an ambition of starting a podcast. The way it actually went down is we're sitting in an economic history lecture. And we were both really bored. It was like hour two or three. The lecture was boring. And Adam searched up the podcast room. We just we didn't even know if there was anything. We just joked about talking about exchange and he searched it up. And it was just one of those moments, he just looked at each other, he booked it. We left the class. We both got a Red Bull and we just started talking. And we released that first episode with no real intention, and it did quite well. A lot of people said they enjoyed our conversation. So like, hey, why don't we bring in some guests and let's see how this thing goes?
00:13:38 · Sid Dissanayake
[00:13:38] S1: I mean, it's cool to hear how it pretty much organically was created in that boring lecture you both had. I mean, you mentioned there as well about, you like you mentioned mistakes, making mistakes, and you alluded to like the risk of failure. And, you know, for me personally, that's something that has been on my mind a little bit. And I think, you know, a lot of other students out there, whether it be high school or university, you know, come across a similar sort of idea of, you know, oh shit, what if this goes wrong? Or, you know, what are the consequences of failing if I do a certain project to start a podcast or whatever the case may be? Did you and Adam, you know, come across a risk of failure or risk of making a mistake at all? Or do you have a total different experience?