00:26:19 · Jonathan Brebner, Anurag Goel
[00:26:19] S0: It's ultimately... It is still a bet. [00:26:21] S1: Yeah. It is still a bet because the the shape of the product is still very unclear. Yeah. You know, everyone's still trying to figure out what agentic memory means. How are you going to build an agent memory infra primitive if people are still trying to understand agent memory? [00:26:37] S0: Yeah. Know, being an SPC kinda gives you a... Like, I think a pretty good sense of the way that, like, everyone actually kind of has whiplash right now and everyone... Like, no one is able to keep... Right? We we get in people who were, like, at, you know, the the, like, major AI research labs, and they're like, oh, I can't keep up with it. Yeah. Like, right. I couldn't keep up with what was in my own company. Was... Right. Like... Yeah. And then you as a... Someone who is building for, like, people who are feeling bad, but are still, like, building, like, new products on top of this new technology, like, ultimately, yeah, you're not gonna have certainty about anything. No. Right? But you do have to try and build conviction in something. [00:27:11] S1: And I think you have to be really good at customer discovery. You have to be very, very close to your customers, but then you have to ask the right questions. You have to put your own ego to the side come, you know, surely you have a point of view about what should happen, but what customers tell you might completely change that, and you have to be okay with that. [00:27:36] S0: Anurag, I I appreciate you joining us. Of course. It was a pleasure catching up and
00:27:36 · Jonathan Brebner, Anurag Goel
[00:27:36] S0: Anurag, I I appreciate you joining us. Of course. It was a pleasure catching up and [00:27:41] S1: Thank you. [00:27:42] S0: And Likewise. Talking more about yours and [00:27:44] S1: and Render's journey. Thanks for joining Minus One. Thank you for having me.