00:47:07 · Jordi Hays, Bridgit Mendler, John Coogan, Dylan Patel
[00:47:07] S0: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. [00:47:10] S6: Yeah. So there is, you know, if you if you look at SpaceX, for example, like, their market access program is tremendous. I think they have nearly covered most countries, which is insane and Really? Super, super cool. But that's more on the consumer side. So on the actual, you know, backhaul side, which is the side that we focus on, it turns into basically, like, looking at a map and then plugging in a satellite elevation and determining, you know, where you need to have visibility and where you need to have, like, extra density in a network. So I'd say there's there's still a lot more to go for Northwood. You know, we will be dramatically increasing that number in terms of both density and in terms of diversity. [00:47:53] S1: So And on the [00:47:54] S0: We should expect the 10 x year over year. [00:47:57] S6: I mean, I was... We're at a start up here. We're we're trying to 10 x everything year over year. [00:48:03] S0: There we go. That's great. 90 countries by by by [00:48:06] S6: 9,000 countries. [00:48:08] S0: And I hope you enjoy I hope you enjoy a lot of travel. John, what were you gonna say? [00:48:15] S1: I was gonna ask about hiring. [00:48:17] S3: Yeah.
00:48:17 · Dylan Patel, John Coogan, Bridgit Mendler, Jordi Hays
[00:48:17] S3: Yeah. [00:48:17] S1: Yeah. Just what is the balance between, like, PhD industry veteran, someone who's been working on the foundational technology for their entire career versus young person who might be able to get up to speed faster in the AI era, but at the same time, they might not know to identify a hallucination. How have you been balancing the role of young people in the organization in the AI era? [00:48:45] S6: Yeah. Yeah. I would say if you have any interest in the work at Northwood and if you have a lot of, you know, fire and what I like to describe, horsepower to just get things done quickly, then we definitely are are really excited about new grad talent. I think there's a lot that new grads can do and can contribute. You know, I I think there's a a space hexism about what the exact ratio is of, you know, more senior talent to more new grad talent and really, like, what the optimal balance is there. But I think I think there's there's so much ownership that new grads are bringing to Northwood when they come in the door. So we've been really impressed by what folks can get done. [00:49:29] S1: Awesome. Well, congratulations on the new round, and we'll talk to you soon, Bridgit. Go for [00:49:33] S0: one more go for one more before the end of the year. There's still there's [00:49:37] S1: still a couple months. [00:49:38] S0: Got So like fifty days till Christmas. You know? [00:49:41] S1: There's not [00:49:42] S6: a lot we got in the chamber, guys. So we'll see you soon. [00:49:44] S1: Awesome. Great to
00:49:44 · John Coogan, Jordi Hays, Tyler, Andrew Megalaa
[00:49:44] S1: Awesome. Great to [00:49:45] S0: see you. Congrats to the team. [00:49:46] S1: Let's tell you all about Figma agents. Meet the Canvas. Your AI agents can now create and modify your Figma files with design system context. We got Tyler in Oh, [00:49:58] S0: there he is. [00:49:59] S1: Switching Tyler taking over. I'm gonna drop off for this one while the SemiAnalysis crew hops on. Have a good one. [00:50:06] S0: Cheers, John. See you, John. It's good to see you, Tyler. [00:50:10] S7: Likewise. [00:50:10] S0: You are [00:50:11] S7: Good to be here. [00:50:12] S0: Physically around half the man John is, but spiritually, a 100%. Thank it's great to have you. We have multiple people from SemiAnalysis joining any minute now. We can head over to the timeline and see what's going on. Tae Kim was going off on on Apple earnings yesterday. Says, live by the sword, die by the sword. It looks like services revenue from Apple's search royalty deal with Google will decelerate significantly going forward. That's bad news for Apple. I don't know. Like, obviously not great because they just completely... You know, that deal was just like flow directly to the bottom line, but they had to, you know, all good things come to an end. So... [00:51:06] S7: That's true. That's true. [00:51:09] S0: I think we got the... [00:51:10] S7: We got SemiAnalysis crew here. [00:51:11] S0: Let's do it. Coming in. Here they are. We got five of us. Incredible. Incredible. How are doing, guys? What's up? [00:51:28] S5: How are you guys doing? [00:51:29] S1: Welcome to [00:51:29] S0: the show.
00:51:29 · Jordi Hays, John Coogan, Max Kan, Andrew Megalaa, Dylan Patel, Harley Finkelstein
[00:51:29] S0: the show. [00:51:30] S1: Thank you. [00:51:31] S2: Thank you. [00:51:32] S0: On the left, introduce yourself because I think it's the first time. And and then I don't know who this other guy is, but I think he I think he's a big yapper. So I'm looking forward to hearing from him too. [00:51:44] S2: Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Well, first, just thanks so much for having us, guys. My name is Max. I co lead the tokenomics team here at SemiAnalysis. Tokenomics is just the top of SemiAnalysis' full stack coverage. We focus on things like the AI labs, the clouds, the data companies, application AI companies, etcetera. [00:52:03] S0: Amazing. [00:52:05] S5: How's it going, guys? I'm Andrew. I recently joined the Telkonomics team working with Max here. [00:52:09] S0: Amazing. Who's this other guy? [00:52:13] S3: Hey, guys. My name is Dylan. I'm a big loser, so [00:52:16] S4: thanks for having me on. [00:52:18] S0: Awesome. You guys... Yeah. Let's let's get right into it. Why don't you introduce GDPX, and then we can go into some of the takeaways from it.
00:52:18 · Jordi Hays, Max Kan
[00:52:18] S0: Awesome. You guys... Yeah. Let's let's get right into it. Why don't you introduce GDPX, and then we can go into some of the takeaways from it. [00:52:27] S2: Yeah. For sure. So GDPX is, in our opinion, the single best benchmark for measuring frontier model capabilities. We think previous attempts at comprehensive benchmarks, most notably OpenAI's GDPval, are sort of fundamentally misguided because they pick their domains based on percentage of GDP or using things like the SOC or ONET taxonomy. Whereas we believe that sort of the first trillion dollars of AI revenue are going to be extremely concentrated in certain domains, the ones that can sort of move fast enough to actually adopt this new technology and also sort of have high enough of a skill ceiling to continue using frontier intelligence at high ROI. And so we made a benchmark focused exclusively on those domains, which are things like chip design, biology, cybersecurity, RSI, etcetera.
00:53:24 · Jordi Hays, Max Kan, Dylan Patel, Andrew Megalaa
[00:53:24] S0: Okay. So my first question is how how did you think about the gap right now between AI's ability to execute on tasks and do them in an effective way versus roles? Right? Because I think, like, as you look out in... As I look out into the next year, and especially right now with the sort of market jitters that we're having, it feels like we need a capability jump in the same way that we had. Like similar to what we had in let's say Q four of last year, where there was like this momentary correction because everyone was sort of had this idea that chatbots were gonna create trillions and trillions of dollars of value, and then there started to be some skepticism, you remember there was sort of like very momentary like correction and then we got agents and everything ripped again. And it feels like right now, like my question looking at this, you know, at the benchmark is like, are you guys thinking about, obviously there's a lot of room to run for all the models. But how are you thinking about broad capability increases versus just scaling up intelligence in these specific domains? [00:54:36] S2: Yeah. So I actually don't wanna go into this too in-depth because we're currently working on a demand model to sort of project '27 and '28 OpenAI to drop off revenue, which is kind of... Let... It's gonna lay out in full detail the SemiAnalysis. [00:54:51] S3: I do think we can say some things, though. Right? [00:54:53] S2: Yeah. No. I'm not gonna give the overview for sure. Or you can go ahead if [00:54:55] S5: you want to.